Used Fini Kmax 1510 for sale (455)

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, Technical Data: X, Y axis travel range: from 600 x 900 mm up to 2100 x 2100 mm Z axis range: up to 500 mm Control system: Multi-axis real-time interpolator with active trajectory prediction, LAN communication, EtherCat, 2 ms sampling time, optional: RTCP tool tip tracking, correction map Drive system: Servo drives with EtherCat protocol, X, Y axes with precision-ground helical racks (accuracy class 6), Z axis with precision-ground ball screw (accuracy class 5) Linear guides: Trapezoidal rails Traverse speed: Up to 90 m/min Software resolution: up to 0.0001 mm Lhodjv T Uy Tjpfx Akyef Positioning accuracy: 0.01 mm Gantry drive: Dual-sided master/slave with gantry angle correction Automatic head: SK type Material: Steel, Stainless Steel, Aluminum, Brass Welding range: Ø 3 - M 8 Stud welding range: M 3 x 6 - M 8 x 40, 50 to 100 Volt, fully adjustable, accuracy ± 1 Volt Ball bearing Min. tolerance / 490 Ws at 99 V Stroke: Pneumatic 50 mm Weight: 1.5 kg (without cable) Option: CNC capacitor discharge stud welding MULTI-HEAD

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2020, machine/vehicle number: Sn:20-3453 / 3491, BZT gantry milling machine PFE 1510-PX, clamping area 1,000 x 1,915 mm, X-axis travel = 995 mm, Y-axis travel = 1,550 mm, Z-axis travel = 135 mm, equipped with vacuum table, ceramic milling spindle and substructure table, PC trolley, available from location Seevetal on behalf of customer, as inspected, without freight and packaging, subject to prior sale. Ljdpfx Asxuil Nekyehf

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, Travelling column machine Completely overhauled in 2025 Work table clamping area mm 1500 x 1000 Table height mm 750 Number of T-slots 7 T-slot size to DIN 650 mm 18 Travels X-axis mm 1500 Y-axis mm 1000 Z-axis mm 700 Distance table top – spindle nose min/max mm 150 / 850 Main spindle drive for speed 8000 rpm Tool holder SK 40 AC motor, frequency controlled kW 26 at 44% duty cycle Speed range: rpm 15 – 8000 Torque Nm 245 Internal coolant supply (IKZ) Chip conveyor with belt filter Feed drives X-axis AC servo motor kW 3.5 Y-axis AC servo motor kW 2.0 Z-axis AC servo motor kW 3.5 Rapid traverse speeds (X/Y/Z): m/min 30/30/20 Indirect measuring system Accuracy Positioning accuracy X, Y axis over 1000 mm: mm ± 0.0150 Repeatability X, Y axis: mm ± 0.0075 Positioning accuracy Z axis: mm ± 0.0150 Lhedpfx Asw I Tm Sjkyof Repeatability Z axis: mm ± 0.0075 Tool magazine 24 positions mounted on the left side of the machine - Tool stations 24 - Tool shank (DIN 69871 / 69872) SK 40 - Max. tool diameter mm 76 - Max. tool length mm 250 - Max. tool weight kg 8 Machine control: Heidenhain iTNC530

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 65039, travel distance X-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, Traveling column machine Generally overhauled 2023 Work table clamping area mm 1500 x 1000 Table height mm 750 Number of T-slots 6 Size of T-slots DIN 650 mm 18 Travel paths X-axis mm 1500 Y-axis mm 1000 Z-axis mm 700 Distance table top edge - spindle bottom edge min/max. mm 150 / 850 Main spindle drive for speed 8000 min-1 AC motor, frequency controlled kW 16 at 44% ED Speed range: min -1 15 – 8000 Torque at 44% ED Nm 104 constant up to min -1 1500 Lhodpfx Akewv Nl Ueyjf Feed drives X-axis AC servo motor kW 3.5 Y-axis AC servo motor kW 2.0 Z-axis AC servo motor kW 3.5 Rapid traverse speeds (X/Y/Z): m/min. 30/30/20 Indirect position measuring system. Accuracy Positioning accuracy X, Y axis to 1000 mm mm ± 0.0150 Repeatability X, Y axis mm ± 0.0075 Positioning accuracy Z axis mm ± 0.0150 Repeatability Z axis mm ± 0.0075 24-way tool magazine mounted on the right-hand side of the traveling column - Tool positions 24 - Tool shaft (DIN 69871 / 69872) SK 40 - Max. tool diameter mm 76 - Max. tool length mm 250 - Max. tool weight kg 8 Machine control Heidenhain iTNC530 optional 620

Condition: excellent (used), Carbide saw double side grinder VOLLMER model Fini-Duo Lhedpfx Akjv Ef Tbeyef

Condition: like new (used), Circular dryer S 20, capacity 200 litres, can be inspected in good working condition. Lsdpfx Aksy Eqx Ssyshf

Condition: used, Finiture Paint Line for Windows and Doors ----- Short description: Item 1: 1x Double-rail overhead conveyor Item 2: 1x Traverse rotation unit with one coupling Item 3: 1x "Superjet" flood coating system Item 4: 1x High-pressure humidifier Lodpfx Akjy D A Hhsyshf Item 5: 1x Wastewater separation system Optional: Flood channel or dipping tank (5–6 basins) For detailed technical description and layout, please see the PDF attachment! ----- Price of the above-mentioned paint line on request! ----- (Technical specifications according to manufacturer – no guarantee!) All prices are net plus statutory VAT.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, This offer is for a used ‘Ricoh Pro C9200’ colour production system Item for sale: 1 x Ricoh Pro C9200 with the following specifications: incl. Fiery Controller E-46 incl. Vacuum Feed LCIT RT5120 incl. Stacker SK5040 incl. SR5050 finisher Not the right configuration? We can easily configure the machine to your specifications. Please feel free to contact us! Meter readings: Total: Approx. 12,985,706 pages Colour: Approx. 9,857,702 pages Black: Approx. 3,128,004 pages Condition: This is a second-hand machine, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or discolouration). Lhsdpfoy Alpiox Akyof The machine has been tested for functionality A test print can be seen in the photo Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the machine during our business hours. Please arrange an appointment! Sea-worthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A functional test will be recorded on video for you prior to dispatch or collection. For further information, you are of course welcome to contact us directly.

Condition: used, charge load 125 liter 1.000 mm tank diameter / tank height 920 / 480 mm 210 mm voltage 380 V weight of the machine ca. 630 kg Lodpfx Aev R Hwxokyjhf dimensions of the machine ca. 1,10 x 1,50 x 1,30 m

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, power: 4 kW (5.44 HP), fuel type: gasoline, color: yellow, operation weight: 53 kg, Year of construction: 2026, Caffini Libellula 1-3 Diaphragm Pump – NEW | Equivalent to Wacker Neuson PDI 3A & AMT 337G-96B | Delivery head 7 m | Flow rate 333 l/min | Discharge port 80 mm | Honda GX 160 petrol engine | Weight 53.5 kg | Solids handling up to 6 cm | Includes chassis & accessories Technical Data: Manufacturer: Caffini Model: Libellula 1-3 Condition: NEW Weight: 53.5 kg Delivery head: 7 m Flow rate: 333 l/min Discharge port: 80 mm Engine: Honda GX 160 petrol engine Engine power: 4.0 kW Solids handling: up to 6 cm Accessories: chassis, connection kit, strainer basket Highlights & Equipment: - Diaphragm pump for demanding applications – ideal for sludge, contaminated water & solids - Equivalent to Wacker Neuson PDI 3A & AMT 337G-96B – compatible & proven - Powerful Honda engine – reliable & low-maintenance - Flow rate up to 333 l/min – powerful & efficient - Chassis & accessories included – ready to use - Made by Caffini – professional-grade quality Applications: ✓ Construction & civil engineering ✓ Sewer & pipeline construction ✓ Agriculture & drainage ✓ Municipal use ✓ Flooding & emergency response Lhjdpfx Aksyyq Edjyef Location: Warehouse D-46514 Schermbeck (NRW) – Inspection & collection possible Delivery: Nationwide & international shipping upon request Pricing: Ex works Maassenstraße 91, D-46514 Schermbeck (Wesel district) All information provided without guarantee. Subject to prior sale and errors. Prices excl. VAT Further models available! ➡️ New & used machines, accessories & spare parts Buy Caffini diaphragm pump | Libellula 1-3 NEW | Equivalent to PDI 3A & AMT 337G-96B | Trash pump with Honda GX 160 | Caffini quality Your reliable partner for pump technology & construction machinery: Claudio Macagnino Baumaschinen & Nutzfahrzeughandel GmbH ➡️ Enquire now & secure immediately available new equipment! On request, we are happy to offer a virtual machine inspection via video call.

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, With this offer, you are purchasing a new Kyocera TaskAlfa 8353ci colour multifunctional system. Item for sale: Lhedpfsxrbrcex Akyef 1 x Kyocera TaskAlfa 8353ci with the following features: Includes original packaging. Condition: This offer is for a new device that has not yet been used. Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment to do so! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! For more information, please feel free to contact us personally.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, This offer is for a used black-and-white production printer, the ‘Ricoh Pro 8300s’ Item for sale: 1 x Ricoh Pro 8300s with the following specifications: Includes Vacuum Feed LCIT RT5120 Includes Finisher SR5110 Not the right configuration? We can easily configure the machine to your specifications. Please feel free to contact us! Meter readings: Total: Approx. 2,343,873 pages Condition: This is a used machine, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality A test printout can be seen in the photo Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please arrange an appointment for this! Sea-worthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! Ljdpfx Akoywryqeyjhf A functional test will be recorded on video for you prior to dispatch or collection. For further information, you are of course welcome to contact us directly.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, This offer is for a used black-and-white production printer, the ‘Ricoh Pro 8310s’ Item for sale: 1 x Ricoh Pro 8310s with the following specifications: Includes Vacuum Feed LCIT RT5120 Includes Finisher SR5110 Not the right configuration? We can easily configure the machine to your specifications. Please feel free to contact us! Meter readings: Total: Approx. 2,206,561 pages Condition: This is a used machine, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality Lhjdpfxjywrx Hj Akyof A test printout can be seen in the photo Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please arrange an appointment for this! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A functional test will be recorded on video for you prior to dispatch or collection. For further information, you are of course welcome to contact us directly.

Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 7,000 h, condition: used, We offer this used CML Finishing Ghost C Master CML Ghost 6 axis robot painting line, year of construction 2018. Lsdpfxeyx Sv Uj Akyohf Including: 1pcs Master CML Finishing Ghost C robot 1pcs Slave CML Finishing Ghost C robot 1pcs 3D Scanner with dimensions and depth scanners 2pcs Control cabinets with monitors 1pcs Graco Premier 800 pump 5pcs Graco G36W05 pumps 1pcs Belmeko Spray booth with exhaust and return air system If you have any questions or need more information, feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, sheet thickness (max.): 150 mm, total length: 2,150 mm, total width: 2,205 mm, total height: 2,320 mm, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, power: 16 kW (21.75 HP), input current: 32 A, This F1200 has only been used as a showroom model and is therefore almost new. The machine can be viewed at our showroom in Bergeijk. Discover the advanced F1200 finishing machine, equipped with an intuitive HMI touchscreen for effortless operation. This screen allows operators to easily switch between various finishing programs, ensuring high reproducibility of product quality and minimizing operator errors. Depending on the material to be processed, you can opt for a vacuum or magnetic support system. At the infeed side, burrs and irregularities are removed by a grinding unit, resulting in a smooth and burr-free surface. This is followed by four oscillating comb brushes that apply light pressure. The brushes provide uniform rounding of all edges and holes, both on the periphery and on the flat-ground product, resulting in the most optimal finish. Lhedpfx Aeyt Npyokyof Additionally, the F1200 is also available in an XL version, which adds a fourth station. This station includes a second grinding unit that allows you to apply a line finish using a finer abrasive belt or finish with a scotch-brite belt. The F1200 offers options for automatic brush calibration, ensuring consistent accuracy, as well as full ERP control and flawless integration into automated production environments. In short, it is a finishing machine that is fully prepared for the future!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2024, sheet thickness (max.): 110 mm, total length: 4,370 mm, total width: 2,205 mm, total height: 2,320 mm, overall weight: 6,150 kg, input voltage: 400 V, workpiece height (max.): 110 mm, input frequency: 50 Hz, power: 30 kW (40.79 HP), workpiece width (max.): 1,200 mm, input current: 59 A, This SER1200 Multibrush VAC is on display in our showroom and has only been used for a few demonstrations. You can still view this machine in our showroom in Bergeijk. Discover the innovatively developed SER1200 Multibrush finishing machine, designed with 4 processing stations and 17 individually controlled motors. The entire finishing machine can be operated via the HMI touchscreen, which is highly intuitive and ensures effortless operation. The display makes it easy to select different finishing programs, leading to high reproducibility of product quality and preventing operator setup errors. Thanks to the automatic height adjustment at the processing stations, consistency and precision are always ensured. At the first station of the finishing machine, burrs and irregularities are removed by a grinding unit, resulting in a flat, burr-free surface. After grinding, four oscillating combination brushes apply gentle pressure to the product, ensuring that all edges and holes of the flat-ground product are rounded, both around and inside. As the final processing step, the Multibrush round brushes provide perfect post-processing. The six brushes deliver a non-directional finish and round off the edges with a radius of 2+ mm, giving the product a high-quality and durable appearance. The SER1200 Multibrush finishing machine is also available in an XL version, featuring an additional fifth station. The fifth station consists of a second grinding unit, enabling a line finish on your product using a finer grinding belt or Scotch-Brite belt. Lhsdeyt Nm Ejpfx Akyof The SER finishing machine utilizes a unique brush combination, exclusive to Q-Fin and marketed as: “The Ultimate Qombination”. This setup achieves a 2+ mm radius in a single pass. The SER1200 offers full ERP control and seamless integration into automated production processes — in short, a finishing machine that is ready for the future!

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2016, This F200XL-VAC is used but has been inspected and is in exceptionally good condition. Lhodpfjyt Nhvsx Akyef The F200 XL is a 3-station machine and is standard equipped with the brush height tracking system developed by Q-Fin. In combination with the user-friendly button system, this ensures that both the setup and operation of the F200 are intuitive, resulting in the most operator-friendly machine available on the market. The machine features steplessly adjustable speeds for both the conveyor and the brush(es) and/or grinding head(s) as standard, making all manner of processes and finishing results achievable. You determine the desired finish yourself. The F200 XL can be equipped, as desired, with either a vacuum system (for non-ferrous metals, such as stainless steel and aluminium) or a magnet system (for ferrous metals). These systems ensure effective fixation of the workpieces on the conveyor table, allowing even small parts (from 10x10 mm) to be processed safely, effortlessly, and quickly. For good reason, we at Q-Fin advocate a narrow machine for small workpieces and a wider machine for larger ones. In many cases, the throughput speed of this machine is up to 5 times higher than comparable machines. You can view this machine in our showroom in Bergeijk.

Condition: good (used), CMC Italia Q Finish Crater 20 Book Press Book press with groove cutter and heated platens. Manufactured by CMC, Italy. Technical specifications: Maximum format: 420 x 500 x 80 mm Ledpfx Aoywdtvjkyjhf Weight: 420 kg Pressure: 5000 kg Built-in hydraulic unit. Automatic book feed. Automatic format detection. 380V power supply + compressed air.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, total length: 2,150 mm, total width: 1,805 mm, total height: 2,320 mm, overall weight: 2,850 kg, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, power: 16 kW (21.75 HP), input current: 32 A, This machine is as good as new, has only been displayed in the showroom and has been used as a demo model. Ledpfx Asx Uz Ilskyehf F800 – All-round finishing machine Discover the advanced F800 finishing machine, equipped with an intuitive HMI touchscreen for effortless operation. This screen allows operators to easily switch between various finishing programmes, ensuring high reproducibility of product quality and minimising operating errors. Depending on the materials to be processed, you can choose a system with vacuum or magnetic support. On the input side, burrs and irregularities are removed by a grinding unit, resulting in a smooth and burr-free surface. This is followed by four oscillating cup brushes that exert light pressure. The brushes ensure uniform rounding of all edges and holes, both around and inside the flat-ground product, resulting in the most optimal finish. The F800 offers automatic brush calibration options that ensure consistent precision, as well as full ERP control and seamless integration into automated production environments. In short, it is a finishing machine that is fully prepared for the future!

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2024, functionality: fully functional, working width: 600 mm, input voltage: 400 V, overall weight: 3,560 kg, workpiece height (max.): 170 mm, The fast deburring machine for deburring, rounding and finishing steel cut parts up to 600 mm wide. This Q-Fin deburring and finishing machine was developed especially for applying a large radius of up to 2 mm on steel sheet. Lhedpfsl Dw D Eex Akyof With the SER600 Super Edge Rounder from Q-Fin it is possible to deburr, grind, edge break, round off, remove slag, remove oxide skin or apply a line finish to sheet metal up to 600 mm wide. A combination of these operations is also possible. The throughput of the SER600 is 3 to 5 times higher than comparable machines. This new 2024 machine is equipped with magnetic support, making it suitable for processing steel cut parts and other magnetic materials. This machine is equipped with as many as 5 machining stations. Easy operation through an HMI touch screen on the front of the machine. The first station of the SER600 consists of a grinding unit. The grinding belt of this unit removes burrs and/or burn-in points from the product surface. If you have no burrs, you can leave the grinding belt off or remove them. It is also possible to apply a line finish to your product with a finer grinding belt or finish with a scotch-brite belt. The second and the third station consists of the disc brush unit containing 4 oscillating disc brushes. The fourth and the fifth station consists of 2 round brushes, rotating counterclockwise and clockwise. With the brushes you remove the sharp edges of the product by breaking the edges or, by the unique combination of two brush systems, edge round them with a radius up to R=3 mm. The installation of special brushes makes this SER600 with magnetic system also very suitable to remove the oxide skin of steel products or slag from plasma cut products. We sell the combination with a WES6000 wet working grinding dust extraction system as 'SER600 Set'. The WES6000 was developed by Q-Fin to extract grinding dust safely and without pressure loss. This fully stainless steel extraction system is a wet-acting system that extracts grinding dust from stainless steel, steel and aluminum, eliminating the risk of fire and explosion. According to Q-Fin, it is the safest, easiest and most durable way to extract grinding dust. No more grinding dust in the air and/or work environment with the WES6000. At this moment we have two SER600 machines in stock: 1x new (built year 2025) 1x used for only a few months; as new. built year 2024. Both machines can be viewed by appointment in Bergeijk. Both machines have a 1 year warranty on construction and all non-wearing parts. We can also provide on-site installation of the SER600 + WES6000) including training for the operators. - Connected load SER600 machine: 400 V, 50 Hz, 32 A, 16 kW - Dimensions: 3640 x 1585 x 2085 mm (L x W x H) - Weight: 3560 kg

Condition: used, In this offer you purchase a used booklet finisher "Canon Booklet Finisher W1 Pro" Object of sale: Lodpot Hfhkofx Akyjhf 1 x Canon Booklet Finisher W1 Pro suitable for various Canon models Condition: This offer is a used device, which may show signs of use (minor scratches or yellowing). (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for function Packaging and dispatch: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment for this! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! For further information you can of course also contact us personally.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2020, An automation machine Infinite Technologies and Robotics (CN) for automated assembly of clips on electroplated chrome trim strips is available. Clips per component: 6, component geometries: 4, pressing force: 100N, pressing force tolerance: +/-10N, positioning tolerance: +/-0.3mm. Sliding tables: 2, sliding table dimensions X/Y/Z: 1180mm/770mm/15mm, sensors: 4. Tool holders: 2, holder dimensions X/Y/Z: 740mm/490mm/190mm, max. holder weight: 20kg. Axis systems: 2, travel X/Y/Z: 800mm/400mm/300mm, max. speed: 250mm/s, spindle pitch: 5mm, payload: 330N. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 3700mm/2250mm/2300mm, weight: approx. 3000kg, control: Siemens S7. Including vision system Keyence, sensors Sick and pneumatics SMC. Documentation available. An on site inspection is possible. Ljdpoyrta Tsfx Akyohf

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2024, working width: 200 mm, 2024 Deburring and finishing machine F200 XLDS with magnetic support. Suitable for deburring, rounding, deslagging and/or grinding of steel cut parts up to 200 mm wide. This is concerning a F200 XLDS 4-station machine. Type TS, with touch screen. Compared to the standard F200 XL, this machine is equipped with a deslagging roller for removing slag from plasma cut products. The F200 XL deburring machine is the finishing specialist for small workpieces. Suitable for flat ferrous/magentic sheet metal parts between 15 and 200 mm wide. Deburring, slag removal, grinding and edge rounding at high speed. This deburring machine has a deslagging roller ('deslagging hammer') as the first station. The second station is a grinding belt followed by two stationary disc brushes, one rotating clockwise (CW) and the other counterclockwise (CCW). Compared to other deburring machines, the F200 DS has a very high processing speed while being able to achieve more edge rounding. The machine comes standard with a freely adjustable speed for the conveyor belt and the grinding and/or brush head(s), making it possible to perform every conceivable operation and achieve every conceivable result. You determine the desired finish. Simple operation via the HMI touch screen on the front. The magnetic system ensures effective fixation of the products to be machined on the transport table, allowing even small workpieces (from 15 x 15 mm) to be machined safely, quickly and without problems. It is not for nothing that we at Q-Fin are convinced by a narrow machine for small workpieces and a wider machine for large workpieces. In many cases, the throughput of this machine is 5 times higher than comparable machines. Take the test for yourself and make an appointment. We can now offer you this F200 DS - MAG showroom machine built year 2023 possibly in combination with a WES3000 wet working extractor and associated pipe work. Only available until sold. Lsdpfx Ashnc E Ajkyjhf Machine comes with 1 year warranty excl. wear parts. Delivery ex works Bergeijk. If wanted we can also offer the machine including transport, installation and training of your operators on site. The machine is on display in our showroom in Germany. This is the very last F200 XLDS -MAG machine! Please contact us and we will send you an attractive offer.

Condition: good (used), Glasbeek Finish Gas Chamber Furnace Type 003.05 Glasbeek finish Gas chamber furnace Type 003.05 With loading trolley Maximum temperature 200 ° C Lodpfed Spx Dsx Akyjhf Approximate inside dimensions (B1900mm x T2950mm x H1800mm) Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de More articles - new and used - can be found in our shop! International shipping costs on request!

Condition: good (used), Glasbeek Finish Gas Chamber Furnace Type G.11.01 Glasbeek finish Gas chamber furnace Type G.11.01 With loading trolley Maximum temperature 200 ° C BJ. 1991 3 x 380V Lhodod Spxvopfx Akysf 54 kW Approximate inside dimensions (B1900mm x T2940mm x H1965mm) Financing through our bank is also possible. komplett-konzept.leasingo.de More articles - new and used - can be found in our shop! International shipping costs on request!