Used Eterna Automatic Folder Gluer for sale (20,388)

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008343, Max. panel width: 70 mm Lateral horizontal groups: yes Hsdjx A Tl Nopfx Al Sel

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008342, Max. panel width: 70 mm Max. panel length: 2100 mm No of injectors: 4 Lateral horizontal groups: yes Hjdpfx Aex A Tc Ujl Sol

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008014, Max. panel length: 1250 mm Hodpfx Alswuz S Ds Sol Lateral horizontal groups: yes

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 13,000 h, functionality: fully functional, bar diameter (max.): 22 mm, INDEX MS22-8 Mfd. 2019 2 NCU 2 Syncrons 2 Y-Axis Control: Siemens Solution Line Knoll System Hjdpsx H H Nrefx Al Sjl Bar Feed: IEMCA SIR rack loader (12-ft) 22,000 on-hours 10,000-15,000 Hours

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, machine/vehicle number: 14974, Tornos MultiSwiss 6x16  CNC Multi-Spindle Screw Machine Mfd. 2019 6 Motorspindles  5,5 kW max. speed 8’000 RPM Spindle capacity 16 mm, Z 50mm stroke (max. parts 40mm). 6 slides X 40mm stroke 1 counter-operation slide, 75mm stroke. Counter spindle with integrated motor 6 kW Max. speed 8’000 RPM, 150mm stroke. Numeric control Fanuc 30i Hodpfx Alov S H Uys Ssl Integrated PC with screen 17” Programming system TB DECO (DCS version) (requires 3003) contact us for more details

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2006, control type: CNC control, degree of automation: semi-automatic, actuation type: hydraulic, controller manufacturer: Schroder, controller model: POS 2000, working width: 3,200 mm, folding beam adjustment: 300 mm, installation height: 1,737 mm, sheet thickness (max.): 3 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 2 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 3 mm, back gauge adjustment: CNC-controlled, overall weight: 4,380 kg, total length: 4,568 mm, total width: 2,450 mm, total height: 1,737 mm, input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, Equipment: CE marking, emergency stop, foot remote control, 2006 Schröder SPB 3200 x 3.0 CNC Folder – POS2000 Control – Very Good Condition Machine Manufacturer: Schroder Machine Model: SPB 3200 x 3.0 CNC Folder Machine Type: CNC Sheet Metal Folder Year: 2006 Condition: Very good High-Quality Used CNC Sheet Metal Folder for Sale in Ireland Used Machine Tools Ireland is pleased to offer this 2006 Schröder SPB 3200/3.0 CNC Folder, a high-precision universal sheet metal folding machine from one of Europe’s most respected manufacturers. This machine is in very good condition and is fully equipped with sharp tooling, box & pan tooling, and extra bending rails, making it ideal for both standard and complex folding applications. The control screen has been upgraded to a larger display, improving visibility, usability, and operator comfort. Key Features & Benefits Schröder SPB 3200/3.0 CNC Folder 3200 mm working length 3.0 mm mild steel capacity Schröder POS2000 CNC control Upgraded large control screen Includes extensive tooling package Rear roller support table fitted Heavy-duty industrial build Excellent accuracy & repeatability Ideal for fabrication, HVAC, cladding & precision sheet metal work Included Tooling & Equipment Rear Roller Support Table Box & Pan Folding Tooling Sharp Sheet Metal Folding Tool Extra Bending Bars / Rails This tooling package allows for maximum flexibility, from straight folds to boxes, pans, trays, and complex profiles. Technical Specifications – Schröder SPB 3200/3.0Machine Type: Universal CNC Sheet Metal Folder Year: 2006 Control: Schröder POS2000 Condition: Very Good Capacity Usable working length: 3200 mm Maximum sheet thickness: 3.0 mm Beam & Adjustment Upper beam daylight: 300 mm Vertical adjustment of bending beam: 300 mm Drive & Power Upper beam drive: 4.4 kW Bending beam drive: 4.4 kW Nominal power: 9 kVA Pneumatics: 6 bar Machine Dimensions Machine length: 4568 mm Machine width: 2450 mm Machine height: 1737 mm Machine weight: 4380 kg Ideal Applications Sheet metal fabrication HVAC ducting & panels Architectural metal & cladding Enclosures, trays & cabinets General engineering & contract folding Why Buy From Used Machine Tools Ireland? Trusted Irish supplier of quality used CNC machinery Machines inspected & honestly described Hsdpoyakn Rofx Al Sol Nationwide & export delivery available Competitive pricing Notes: *Specifications are given in good faith but not guaranteed*

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2018, Cursal TRSI 8000 AP Automatic Crosscut Saw With Integrated Pusher - 2018 CE Durable and versatile automatic crosscut saw with exceptional speed and accuracy. Impressive speed and accuracy CNC programmable sequential cutting capabilities Optional loading and unloading Specification : 6000 mm In feed capacity, push feed crosscut Saw Single-block structure: the frame made of welded - worked steel Pneumatic side-aligner installed before of the blade Pneumatic blade-press with mobile casing: stroke 150 mm. Breaking press-wheels with horizontal axis installed after blade Cutting height on the guide: 120 mm. Width of the boards: min. 40 - max. 250 (300) mm Hedpfx Ajxxvqtsl Sol Automatic cutting control managed by the computer Vertical alternated blade movement: pneumatic system with totally controlled stroke Saw blade HM steel with alternate teeth Ø 500 mm, hole Ø 35 mm - Z=120 Blade motor HP 7,5 with automatic brake Cutting time: adjustable from 0.3 to 2 seconds CNC unloading belt with 2 programmable ejectors 2018 CE

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, total width: 3,642 mm, total length: 3,334 mm, input voltage: 400 V, feed length X-axis: 2,900 mm, feed length Y-axis: 2,600 mm, working width: 2,600 mm, feed rate X-axis: 80 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 80 m/min, cutting width (max.): 2,540 mm, cutting height (max.): 20 mm, compressed air connection: 9 bar, We are selling our Atom FlashCut Fashion 26B All-in-One fully automatic cutting table system. With a usable working area of 2,900 x 2,600 mm, a cutting window of 2,540 x 850 mm, and a separate unloading area of 1,200 x 2,600 mm, the FlashCut 26B offers ideal conditions for efficient workflows. The maximum cutting height of 20 mm allows for processing a wide range of materials – including multilayer applications. Two independently operating tool heads ensure high speed and maximum productivity. Servo drives on the X, Y, and Z axes guarantee precise movements with a travel speed of up to 80 m/min and an acceleration of 1G. Intelligent Material Handling & Vacuum Technology A continuous conveyor belt feeds the material into the processing zone. The vacuum table is divided into 300 x 300 mm segments, allowing targeted activation of individual areas. This ensures precise material fixing while minimizing energy consumption. Two high-performance vacuum pumps with frequency control (3–15 kW) automatically adjust their output to actual requirements. The result: secure material fixing with energy-efficient operation. Precision through Camera and Projection Technology For maximum material utilization, the system is equipped with two cameras with integrated light sources and dimmers for detecting irregular material contours – for example, when processing leather hides. Flaws can be digitally marked and taken into account during further processing. Two high-performance projectors support automatic nesting by projecting cutting contours directly onto the material. In addition, item numbers, sizes, or other markings can be projected onto the cut parts – ideal for process reliability and traceability. Powerful CNC Control & Software The system features a modern CNC control unit, including TFT color display, keyboard, and USB interface. An integrated computer with Windows Embedded, Ethernet connectivity, and TeamViewer support enables easy operation and remote maintenance. The software package includes: - DXF converter for reading and converting CAD files - Interactive layout software - Automatic nesting software - CAD module for creating simple geometries Optionally, the Luxury Nest Strategy adds a specially developed nesting logic for optimizing leather cutting. It takes into account quality zones, defect areas, and defined rotation and grouping rules to ensure maximum material yield. Versatile Tool Equipment The FlashCut 26B comes with a multi-tool head. Standard tools include: - Drag knife - Punch tools (various diameters) - Marking tool Hedpfxjymn R Nj Al Sol - Tracing needle - Laser pointer - Knife holder and ejector This makes the system flexible for cutting, marking, and perforating tasks. Safety & Reliability A safety system with light barriers and emergency stop button ensures maximum operational safety. The machine is CE-compliant and designed for continuous industrial operation.

Condition: used, mileage: 89,178 km, power: 96 kW (130.52 HP), fuel type: diesel, gearing type: automatic, axle configuration: 4x2, first registration: 01/2021, emission class: euro6, color: other, suspension: steel, tire size: 215/65R16C, Year of construction: 2021, Equipment: ABS, central locking, cruise control, = Additional options and accessories = - Electric exterior mirrors - Electric windows - Speed limiter - Alternating current (AC) Hsdpfjy Imh Rex Al Ssl = Notes = Car-Pass URL: Car-Pass ID: 882b3af4-be4a-42ef-b892-1fd7e09d9eb4 = Further information = Tyre size: 215/65R16C Brakes: Disc brakes Suspension: Leaf springs Front axle: Steered; Left tyre tread: 5 mm; Right tyre tread: 5 mm Rear axle: Left tyre tread: 7 mm; Right tyre tread: 7 mm Unladen weight: 2,087 kg Damage: none

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, machine/vehicle number: 100007528, functionality: fully functional, power: 13 kW (17.68 HP), type of input current: three-phase, total height: 1,700 mm, total length: 9,000 mm, total width: 3,000 mm, Biesse Akron 1440 A With Automatic Return Table And Conveyer, PUR Glue Pot NC Controlled , Pre miller, fence, Radius Trimmer And Scraper. Edging Thickness Selectable From Pc with automatic Setting Hedpoxmi E Hjfx Al Ssl Delivery can be arrange in the Republic of Ireland

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Fully programmable 3 axis horizontal CNC swing chisel mortiser suitable for general joinery and furniture production. By a combination of automatic movement of the mortisting head in the x axis and an automatic gripper that positions the timber no manual movement or handling of the component is required other than loading and positioning the timber against the pneumatic reference stop and then unloading when the mortising cycle is finished. The complete movement, clamping and, mortising cycle is fully automatic. X, Y and, Z axis movements are all via re-circulating ball and screw drives and using linear slideways to give maximum positioning accuracy. Thanks to the programmable Z axis it is possible to produce off line mortises, double mortises or produce thicker mortise slots with the same chisel. Programming is very simple thanks to the 'user friendly' graphic touch screen controller were programs can be memorised and stored under a number or specific name up to 8 characters. The swing chisel cutter itself produces a very clean mortise slot and if required for deep mortises up to 3 depths of cut can be programmed to give a 'woodpecker' type cutting operation. Other programming options include working off either the face of the timber or the thickness and the possibility to produce mirror image components (left/right hand) in one program. Year - 2007 CE X axis stroke 1100mm. Y axis stroke 250mm. Max. depth of cut 120mm (depending on chisel size) Z axis stroke 100mm Max. workpiece height of 120mm. All movements on re-circulating ball and screw drive with brushless motor Max. workpiece width 200mm Hedpfxsymnbns Al Sol Max. swing chisel thickness 20mm. Min . slot length 25mm approx (with swing chisel) Min. slot thickness 6mm. 3 vertical pneumatic clamps. 3 horizontal pneumatic clamps. 4 hp main motor. 'Power 1000' touch screen graphic controller with 99 programs each with 50 lines. USB key facility. Programmable speed for cutting depth. Anti splinter guards with air blowers and dust extraction points. Working table dimensions 1210mm x 215mm Air supply 6 bar / 470 l/min consumption. Fitted with separate dedicated programmable hollow chisel head for producing the small mortises for glazing bars

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, Manufacturer : Kutter- und Gerätebau Wetter Model : AW D114 Year: 2016 Type : automatic mincer / grinder Hsdpfx Aeyvv Ddol Sel Power : 9 kW Tank capacity : 110 liters Diameter of perforated disc: 114 mm Rotational speed – processing screw: 160/320 rpm Rotational speed – feed screw: 20–40 rpm Width : 820 mm Depth: 1260 mm Height: 1290 mm Weight : 570 kg Complete technical file  

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2024, operating hours: 10 h, control type: CNC control, We are offering a near-new ERBEND D-SFA 4230 CNC folding machine on behalf of one of our customers. This machine has less than 10 operating hours and is in absolute mint condition. A unique opportunity to acquire a high-end CNC folding machine without long lead times. Technical Specifications: This servo-driven folding machine is built for precision, speed, and flexibility: Working length: 4200 mm Capacity steel (S235): 3 mm Capacity stainless steel: 2 mm Capacity aluminium: 4 mm Machine dimensions: 2200 x 6100 x 2300 mm Machine weight: 11,800 kg Positioning accuracy: ± 0.1 mm Thanks to the servo drives and ball screw system, the machine guarantees high precision and reliability. Configuration & Equipment This machine is fully equipped and ready for immediate production: CNC control (Erfold 3D) with full 2D/3D programming and simulation Double bending system (upward and downward bending for higher productivity) U-type back gauge (4200 mm) with pneumatic fingers Integrated suction cups for stable sheet positioning Complete segmented tooling set (top & bottom) 200 mm high upper tooling with pneumatic clamping Motorized CNC axis adjustments (A-B-D axes) Manual crowning system for optimal bending results Hedpsy Idp Eefx Al Ssl Foot pedal with 3 functions + safety light guards Additionally equipped with motorized clamping beam and folding beam, ensuring fast and accurate processing Condition Less than 10 operating hours Fully operational and available for inspection under power No wear – in like-new condition Available immediately Applications / Industries This folding machine is ideal for: Sheet metal fabrication companies Roofing and façade cladding HVAC production Machinery and construction industry Interior and custom metalwork Both single-piece production and serial manufacturing The double bending capability combined with 3D CNC control makes it highly suitable for complex parts as well as efficient batch production. Why this machine? Like-new condition at a significant cost advantage No delivery time Fully equipped and production-ready Large working length (4200 mm) Proven ERBEND quality Interested or want to schedule a viewing? Contact us for more information or to see the machine in operation.

Year of construction: 2017, condition: used, Manufacturer : Transvis Type: Semi-automatic cap screwdriver Application: screwing / capping Hedpfx Aoy H Rfqjl Ssl Year: 2017 Maximum product dimensions: Ø 54.5 x 82 mm Minimum product dimensions: Ø 45.5 x 68 mm Product weight: 90–150 g HMI control panel Asynchronous motor power: 0.18 kW Two-hand control Torque control Overall dimensions: 650 x 1000 x 1800 Screw capper dimensions: 650 x 935 x 990 Weight : 100 kg Spare parts and formats available Power supply: 220V single-phase / 6 bar compressed air Technical documentation available Video available in running condition

Condition: used, mileage: 205,172 km, power: 200 kW (271.92 HP), first registration: 05/2013, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro5, number of seats: 3, Year of construction: 2013, Equipment: air conditioning, central locking, electric window regulation, = Additional options and accessories = Hsdsy H Dwyjpfx Al Sel - Rear-view camera = Further information = Fuel type: natural gas Number of cylinders: 6 Engine displacement: 7,790 cc Unladen weight: 14,150 kg Payload: 5,850 kg Gross vehicle weight: 20,000 kg Manufacturer: IVECO Schouten Used B.V. / Altena Trucks B.V. Almweg 4 4286LG ALMKERK, NL

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 100708, feed length X-axis: 6,300 mm, feed length Y-axis: 250 mm, feed length Z-axis: 200 mm, overall weight: 2,500 kg, saw blade diameter: 700 mm, input voltage: 400 V, saw blade bore: 30 mm, We offer this used H&M HM-Z Automatic Through-Feed Machine, year of manufacture 2008. Machine: HM-Z Type: 4-F Serial number: 100708 Production date: 15-04-2008 Connection voltage: 400 V Power: 19 kW Weight: 2500 kg Air pressure: 6-10 bar Maximum saw blade diameter: 700 mm Minimum saw blade diameter: 600 mm Saw shaft hole diameter: 30 mm Maximum milling cutter diameter: 400 mm Minimum milling cutter diameter: 300 mm Cutter shaft hole diameter: 60 mm Completely overhauled in 2024 by Diba Machinehandel and has hardly been used since, due to an additional business activity. Must go due to lack of space. Infeed section adapted to a working length of 7 meters during the 2024 overhaul. H&M crosscut saw: approx. 19.5 x 4 meters Price is exclusive of dismantling, transport, assembly and accessories, valves, pipes, extraction hoses, and power cables. Hedpfx Ajy H Dbljl Ssl If you have any questions or would like more information, please feel free to send us a message or call us.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, TAKAMAZ CNC Compact loader FC60 Lathe with automatic loader unloader quickest loading system in the world loading time new part 2,8 sec. loading cap. till 60 mm diameter. loading lenght max 50 mm max weight 1 kg per side Hedpfem E I D Hsx Al Sol loading feed 120 m min include part turning for loading Fanuc Control full warranty 2 year Lathe spec. Spindle motor 7,5/5,5 kw turning diameter max 180 mm turning lenght 240 mm bar cap. 35 mm collet chuck 173E till 40 mm diameter spindle nose A2-5 spindle speed 4500 rpm tool pos 8 stations tool shank 20x20 mm boring holder 25 mm diameter rapid speed X/Z 18/24 meter machine dimension 1,36 x 1,37 meter height 1,7 meter weight 2,7 ton total power 14 KVA Price is EXW (Stock Europe), Include loaded on truck. Transport, installation, commissioning, training, and yearly service contracts are available upon request for an additional fee. Installation and training is always done by our high qualified Service team in 3 locations in Europe. Netherlands, Germany, Romania.

Condition: good (used), mileage: 136,000 km, Year of construction: 2022, Land Rover Discovery Sport P300E 1.5 R-Dynamic 2022 Automatic / Meridan Sound / Plug-in Hybrid Video can be sent via Whatsapp. Ongoing stock, see our website. Prices are ex Nuland. Hjdjy Hrqzepfx Al Sjl Van de Wert Trading B.V. has a variable stock of machines, trucks, trailers, and attachments. All our deliveries are at trade prices in AS-IS condition without guarantees. (see our general terms and conditions) For a viewing and/or test drive you can make a non-binding appointment. Please call in advance as we are not always present. Van de Wert Trading B.V. Bedrijfsstraat 3 5391 LR Nuland

Condition: new, Product driven flow divider The filling flow divider can be used for several kind of products like meat, fish, pasta products, sauces and salads. Includes 1 nozzle per exit (round, square, triangular or rectangular) with a maximum outer diameter of 40 mm Product temperature up to ± 80 °C Hedsy Hif Nopfx Al Sol With universal connection With pneumatique knife 3 exits belt width 25 cm With support frame in height adjustable New

Condition: good (used), Metal band saw, fully automatic, band saw machine, band saw, vertical band saw, horizontal band saw, hydraulic horizontal band saw machine, automatic band saw, automatic metal band saw -Manufacturer: MEP, Horizontal band saw, Automatic band saw Hjdoy Hu H Espfx Al Sel -Drive: 4.4/5.7 kW -Cutting data flat 90°: 320 x 200 mm -Cutting data for 90° square: 250 mm -Cutting data flat 45°: 240 x 200 mm -Cutting data for 45° square: 210 mm -Saw blade speed: 2x speeds -Saw blade: 3150 mm -Coolant system -Transport dimensions: 3 meters -Weight: 1300 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, 2 units Citizen M16 Swiss-type lathes, year 2000 with FMB bar feeder. Hsdpsy H Sf Sjfx Al Sol For sale: two identical Citizen M16 CNC Swiss-type automatic lathes from 2000. Includes bar feeder. Condition: Good & workshop-tested. Max. diameter: 16 mm. Machines are still in production and available for inspection. Machines are sold individually or as a package. If interested, please send your offer or a message for further details or to arrange a viewing appointment.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, Used machine Year of manufacture: 2019 Equipment and Technical Data: - For classic nesting processing with wear plate - Machine frame of welded construction with ground and hardened prism guides for the gantry, unit head, and consoles - Gantry-type traveling column - Helical rack and pinion drive in X and Y axes, ball screw in Z axis for precise positioning - Working dimensions: - Max. support area on nesting table: X = 3100 mm, Y = 1560 mm - Max. traverse paths: X = 4695 mm, Y = 2100 mm, Z = 293 mm - Max. clearance height over DYNESTIC table: Z = 100 mm from table top (without wear plate) - Maximum programmable speed Vector speed: 128 m/min X = 80 m/min, Y = 100 m/min, Z = 25 m/min - DYNESTIC table: - Fixed, continuous processing table with grid layout - Continuous grooves in X and Y directions - Groove spacing: 50 mm - Includes 25 meters of sealing cord for clamping the wear plate - Vacuum fields: Single-circuit vacuum system - Drilling unit 7877: - 19 spindles - Drive power: 1.7 kW - 13 vertical spindles: - Individually selectable - Arranged in U-shape - 5+4 in X direction, 4 in Y direction - 32 mm spacing - Max. drill diameter: 35 mm - Total drill length: 70 mm from screw-on end (depending on panel thickness) - Spindle stroke: 70 mm Hodewka Upopfx Al Ssl - Rotational direction: alternating clockwise/counterclockwise - Speed (max): 1000 - 4400 rpm, infinitely variable - Tool holder: M10 thread, 11 mm fit - Without tool, without holder - 6 horizontal spindles: - 2 double drill spindles in X direction - 1 double drill spindle in Y direction - Tool holder: M10 thread, 11 mm fit - Max. total drill length: 63 mm from screw-on end - Without tool, without holder - Milling unit 7842: - Power: 12.0 kW (S6) - Max. speed = 1000 - 24,000 rpm, infinitely variable - Max. power at 12,000 to 24,000 rpm - Air-cooled - With HSK-F 63 tool holder - With right-hand threaded nut (for right-hand rotating tools) - With collet chuck for HSK shank - Ceramic ball bearings (hybrid bearings) - Tool weight max. 6 kg (incl. holder) - Tools: milling and grinding tools max. Ø 160 mm - Safety enclosure according to CE standard - Side and rear safety fence - Vacuum pump: 500 m³/h, dry-running - Personnel safety ensured by light barriers in the front machine area - Hand-held control device for remote operation of the machine with the following functions: - Start/stop of the processing program - Control of processing cycle speed - Reset button - Manual feed/rapid traverse for all axes - EMERGENCY STOP - CAMPUS V7 CAD/CAM software 1x machine license consisting of: - CAMPUS NC-HOPS: - Graphic variant system with WOP and CAD/CAM features for creating part variants using macro technology - CAMPUS MT-Manager - CAMPUS Workcenter - CAMPUS DXF interface - Automatic central lubrication - Automatic lubrication at defined intervals - Additional sealing against dust via pressurization in each guide carriage

Condition: used, Format: 310 x 432mm Equipment: roller adjustment: fully automatic model: flat pile feeder with air-suction type of fold: single fold, parallel fold, short fold, letter fold, according fold, gate fold sheet size: max. 310x432mm; min. 125x130mm paper weight: 50-190g/sqm pile height: 50mm speed: max. 240 sheets/min. Hedpfx Aex N I Uhol Sjl power: 230V/50Hz - 0,6kW dimensions: 1.060x553x670mm weight: 45kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, Format: 0x0 Hjdpfoyxqyrox Al Ssl

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, warranty duration: 12 months, type of input current: AC, product width (max.): 400 mm, input voltage: 230 V, Minipack Pratika 80 MPS The Minipack Pratika 80 MPS is a fully automatic side sealing packaging machine. It is designed for products with a maximum height of 360 mm and is also suitable for very long products. Hsdeyant Repfx Al Ssl – Fully automatic side sealing packaging machine (continuous side sealing) – Maximum product height: 360 mm – Product lengths over 2 m possible – Usable seal bar dimension: 700 mm – Maximum film roll dimensions: Ø 350 × 800 mm – Infeed conveyor height: 915 mm – Machine dimensions (closed): 2,785 × 940 × 1,770 mm – Machine dimensions (open): 2,785 × 940 × 2,280 mm – Output: up to 3,000 packs/h (depending on product/film)