Used B&R Controller for sale (97,183)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, Numerical control with bSolid software The multi-document software application in Windows environment allows the design of the finished product, the definition of its processes, the definition of the work plan, the simulation of the piece machining operations on the 3D model of the machine and generation of the necessary machine programs. bSolid - 3-Axis Machining bSolid - 5-Axis Machining Module for surface machining with 5-axis units and interpolation movements on all 5 available axes (X,Y,Z,C,B). The module includes the following commands: · assignment to surfaces three-dimensional roughing and finishing operations · spread or project a path onto a curved surface machining lying on a plane · follow 2D or 3D curves with any type of tool bSolid - 3D Engraving bSolid - Import external formats Fields of work: X = 5055 mm; Y = 1650 mm (may vary depending on configuration) Z = 200 mm with modules H=74 mm Z = 245 mm with modules H=29 mm Loadable piece in Y: * 1650 mm, with thickness up to 60 mm on H=74 mm modules * 1600 mm, with thickness over 60 mm on H=74 mm modules. 10 ATS floors – 40 trolleys The code includes: • 2 aluminium bars (n. 1 left and n. 1 right) on which the lateral stops slide. • 10 aluminum worktops. The worktops slide on hardened and ground linear guides using recirculating ball bearing slides. Locking occurs on both linear guides, front and rear, by means of four pneumatic cylinders. The control is activated by a button located in front of the work surface. The carriages slide on steel guides positioned above the extrusion. Pneumatic locking system divided into 2 locking zones in X Automatic positioning (EPS) for worktops. "EPS" (Electronic Positioning System) device for the automatic positioning by NC of the work surfaces and trolleys complete with locking devices capable of eliminate possible operator errors. Rear row stop, with 140 mm stroke Intermediate row stop, positioned at 405 mm, with 140 mm stroke. Front row stop, positioned at 1460 mm, with 140 mm stroke 4 lateral stops, with 140 mm stroke (2 right + 2 left) with system 2 additional side stops, with 140 mm stroke (1 right + 1 left). Sensor for checking whether the stops have descended 12 clamping devices for clamping narrow workpieces 6 loading aid bar lifts, for H=74 mm modules Configuration 5A, for Rover B. Configuration for high productivity and flexibility, thanks to the two operating groups 4 and 5 axes and the possibility of performing tool changes in concurrent time. It includes the axes and carriages for the movement of the main operating groups. Includes 2 inverters. Second Y-axis. Introduces the separation of the front and rear Y-carriages, with independent motorization. The two Y-carts have a maximum speed of 118 m/min. 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) electrospindle, HSK F63 connection, air-cooled. Main features: • 11 kW (14.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S1 service. • 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S6 service. • Bearings ceramics. • Right and left rotation. • Rotation speed from 1,000 to 24,000 rpm programmable by NC. • The release pneumatic operation is carried out via a prismatic linear guide and recirculating ball bearings. A cover is included for chip extraction, with 6 different positions in Z managed by the NC, depending on the length of the tool, or by program. The suction mouth is automatically closed when the electrospindle is not working. Provision for subsequent installation of the 360° operating group (C-axis) Revolver tool maga... Lrsdpfx Agew D E A Eerot

Condition: repair required (used), functionality: limited functionality, Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 31,489 h, control type: NC control, degree of automation: semi-automatic, laser type: CO₂ laser, laser hours: 22,804 h, laser power: 4,000 W, sheet thickness (max.): 22 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 22 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 8 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 6 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, table width: 1,500 mm, working length: 3,000 mm, working width: 3,000 mm, AMADA LC3015 X1 NT – Complete Automated Laser Cutting Cell Lrsdszi Uc Nspfx Agrst -The AMADA LC3015 X1 NT is a fully automated CNC laser cutting cell designed for efficient, high-volume sheet metal production with minimal operator intervention. -The installation includes the AMADA LC3015 X1 NT laser machine, an AS LUL 300 X1 automated tower system, a 4 kW Mitsubishi ML40CFX CO₂ resonator, a Riedel industrial chiller, and a Donaldson Torit extraction and filtration system. -Manufactured in Japan in 2007, the machine offers a working area of 3,000 × 1,500 mm and delivers reliable, precision laser cutting performance. -The 4 kW laser is capable of cutting mild steel up to 15 mm, stainless steel up to 8 mm, and aluminum up to 6 mm. -The automated tower system features eight storage cassettes with a load capacity of 3,000 kg each, enabling automatic material loading, unloading, and pallet exchange for continuous production. -A vacuum sheet handling system further improves productivity by reducing manual material handling. -The Riedel dual-circuit chiller provides efficient cooling for both the laser source and optical components, ensuring stable operation. -The Donaldson Torit filtration system effectively removes fumes and metal particles generated during the cutting process, maintaining a clean and safe working environment. -This complete AMADA/Mitsubishi solution combines automation, reliability, productivity, and integrated cooling and filtration systems, making it an excellent choice for demanding industrial manufacturing applications.

Condition: refurbished (used), functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 1,310 kg, load capacity: 235 kg, arm reach: 2,550 mm, controller manufacturer: ABB, controller model: IRC5, ABB IRB 6640-235/2.55 with IRC5 Controller, fully refurbished and with 6 months warranty - delivered into Europe duty paid so no additional costs on top Lredpfx Agjzcfcborst

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2017, pressing force: 51 t, stroke length: 300 mm, overall weight: 4,750 kg, number of axes: 4, This full electric SAFAN E-Brake B 50-2050 was manufactured in 2017. It features a maximum pressing force of 500 kN and a bending length of 2050 mm. The machine includes a programmable backgauge with a maximum stroke of 550 mm and a robust weight of 4750 kg. If you are looking to get high-quality bending capabilities, consider the SAFAN E-Brake B 50-2050 press brake we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Control unit: EC 20 • Q-dimension: 650 mm • Upper beam stroke: 300 mm • Speeds: • Approach: 110 mm/s • Bending: 10 mm/s • Bending with light curtain: 10 mm/s • Return: 110 mm/s • Backgauge: • Maximum stroke: 550 mm • Maximum speed: 350 mm/s • Programmable axes: X, R • Mechanical axes: Z1, Z2 Ljdpszdkvzjfx Agrert • 4 fingers • Tool clamping: • Upper: European Style adapter • Lower: OB-S-3 table with mechanical clamping • Front supports: Standard, load capacity 25 kg each • Safety: • Light curtain: 28.5 mm gap, programmable, vertical, fixed • Stopping time of upper beam: < 92 ms • Minimum safety distance: 185 mm • Electrical: • Power supply: 3 × 400 V / 50–60 Hz / N / PE • Installed power: 11 kW Advantages • Full electric drive • Up to 30% higher productivity • Up to 50% energy saving • No harmful hydraulic oil, low CO2 emissions • Noiseless operation Technical Specification Bending Length 2050 mm

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, Parallel Lathe WEILER type PRAKTIKANT 160 B Ljdpfszwcn Nox Agrsrt Between points: 650 mm Maxi Ø on bench: Ø 320 mm Maxi Ø over saddle: Ø 192 mm Centre height: 160 mm Spindle diameter: Ø 40 mm Rotation: from 48 to 2500 RPM Turret Multifix type A 3-jaws chuck Ø 135 mm Year of construction: 1999 2 speeds spindle motor - 3kW Threadings Metric + Whitworth Tailstock CM3 Scale 2 axes MITUTOYO Supplied with (see photos) : 1 clamps system 1 4-jaws chuck Ø 135 mm 7 MULTIFIX tool holders + various tools ariousSet of clamps Voltage: 380 V Length: 1800 mm Width: 1100 mm Total height (with light): 2100 mm Weight: approx 900 KG

Condition: refurbished (used), functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 1,320 kg, load capacity: 185 kg, arm reach: 2,800 mm, controller manufacturer: ABB, controller model: IRC5, ABB IRB 6640-185/2.8 with IRC5 Controller, fully refurbished and with 6 months warranty - delivered into Europe duty paid so no additional costs on top Lodpfx Aozclkljgrjrt

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: R14101358 (Roboter) / E14130752 (Steuerschrank), overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Year of construction 01.2014 (control cabinet 12.2013). Axes: 6, Reach: 2,655 mm, Ljdpfx Agstk N E Torjrt Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Packaging and loading included.

Condition: good (used), Servo drive, power supply module, control unit, converter, controller, servo module, axis amplifier, DC converter, inverter Ljdpfx Aoyhmx Isgrert -Manufacturer: B&R, ACOPOS micro 100S Servo inverter module -Type: 80VD1 00PS.C02X-01 -Dimensions: 200/65/H105 mm -Weight: 0.9 kg.

Condition: good (used), Servo drive, power supply module, control unit, converter, controller, servo module, axis amplifier, DC converter, inverter -Manufacturer: B&R, ACOPOS micro 100D Servo inverter module Lrsdpfsyhm Ngsx Agret -Type: 80VD1 00PD.C022-01 -Dimensions: 200/65/H105 mm -Weight: 0.9 kg.

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, This is an original ABB robot controller cabinet offered without internal wiring or electronic components. Lrsdpfxjxc Nbmj Agrot The cabinet is empty; no power modules, wiring, or controller boards are included. Compatible with various ABB robot controller series Condition: Used, in good physical shape.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2008, operating hours: 4,322 h, functionality: fully functional, FANUC ROBODRILL α-T21iF | 4,322 hours | 24,000 rpm | BT30 FANUC ROBODRILL α-T21iF – High-Speed CNC Machining Center A very well-maintained FANUC ROBODRILL with very low operating hours – approximately 4,322 run hours. The machine was manufactured in Japan in December 2008 and is equipped with a FANUC Series 31i-Model A5 CNC control, a high-speed 24,000 rpm spindle, and fast axis movements of up to 54 m/min. The machine is in very good technical and visual condition and can be inspected and demonstrated under power by prior arrangement. Approximately 50 pcs. of BT30 tool holders of various types and sizes are included in the price. Technical specifications Manufacturer: FANUC Model: ROBODRILL α-T21iF Type: A04B-0099-B112#BM Year of manufacture: 12/2008 Country of origin: Japan CNC control: FANUC Series 31i-Model A5 Run time: approximately 4,322 hours X-axis travel: 500 mm Y-axis travel: 400 mm Z-axis travel: 330 mm Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: up to 54 m/min Maximum spindle speed: 24,000 rpm Spindle taper: BT30 Automatic tool changer: 21 positions Maximum table load: 300 kg Machine weight: approximately 2,100 kg Lredoz Diqbepfx Agret Power requirement: 10 kVA Power supply: 3-phase, 200/220 V, 50/60 Hz CE marked: Yes Included in the price Approximately 50 pcs. of BT30 tool holders / clamping holders of various types and sizes. IMPORTANT The rotary table / 4th axis shown installed in the machine in the photographs is NOT included in the sale. The machine is available for inspection and demonstration under power by prior appointment.

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2016, volume flow: 5 m³/h, overall weight: 4,900 kg, energy consumption: 35 kWh, peeling centrifuge 3000 rpm , 630 mm diameter bowl Lrsdpfjvm Ur Ajx Agrjt

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 510424, Equipment: documentation/manual, Machine in very good condition. Y and B axes available, with a subspindle. It is connected to power and can be inspected at any time. Ljdpfxezyypcj Agrert The machine is 100% complete, with numerous driven tool holders and spindle diameter reducers. 2 x HAINBUCH 65 BZI. Parts conveyor, chips conveyor, and Sameca bar feeder available. 2 x Spindle bore 60 mm. Tool holders VDI25.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: R14102940 / E14130751 (Steuerung), overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Lodjtk Iyajpfx Agrert Year of manufacture 01.2014 (control cabinet 01.2014). Axes: 6, Reach: 2,655 mm, Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Packaging and loading included.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: R14101359 (Roboter) / E13Z40193 (Steuerung), overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Year of construction 01.2014 (control cabinet 12.2013). Axes: 6, Ledpfjth E Stjx Agrert Reach: 2,655 mm, Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Packaging and loading included.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: R14101361 / E13Z40195 (Steuerung), overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Year of construction 01.2014 (control cabinet 12.2013). Axes: 6, Reach: 2,655 mm, Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Lrjdpfx Aoth Ntuogrot Packaging and loading included.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: R14102942 / E14130753 (Steuerung), overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Year of construction 01.2014 (control cabinet 12.2013). Axes: 6, reach: 2,655 mm, Lredpfx Aoth I Hdjgret Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Packaging and loading included.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 28,500 h, functionality: fully functional, load capacity: 235 kg, arm reach: 2,550 mm, load center: 300 mm, torque: 1,324 Nm, positioning accuracy: 0.07 mm, LOT scope: 3x welding robots for external connection 2x handling robots 5x control cabinets 5x main power cable for robot cabinet 5x communication cable for robot cabinet 5x panel with supply line to the cabinet Lsdpfxez D H Drs Agrsrt Operating hours: between 28,500 and 39,000 hours Manufacturer: ABB Model: IRB 6640-235/2.55 Type: IRB 6640 M2004 Reach: 2.55 m Handling capacity: 235 kg Center of gravity of payload: 300 mm Wrist torque: 1324 Nm Positional repeatability: 0.07 mm Path repeatability: 0.7 mm 3x 400V AC 50-60 Hz 20 A Accessories: Control cabinet: Type: IRC5 M2004 Operating panel: FlexPendant Model: DSQC 679 Cable set: Main connection cabinet to robot Leoni add-on: Cable set for handling or welding

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2008, machine/vehicle number: HEB IPE section bending roll, control type: manual, degree of automation: manual, actuation type: hydraulic, number of rollers: 3, shaft diameter: 200 mm, roller diameter: 650 mm, bending radius (max.): 1,000 mm, pipe diameter (max.): 250 mm, overall weight: 27,000 kg, input voltage: 380,440 V, input frequency: 5,060 Hz, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, emergency stop, hardened rollers, Profile bending roll hydraulic model AR200, year 2008 make MG Italy Capacity bending chart and photos in enclosed -Technical data: Output shafts size 200 mm -Machine complete with set of rollers adjustable for the various shape of profiles. -Traction tool hydraulic operated for the HEB-beam - IPE - UNP bending the hard side. Lsdpez Dkr Hofx Agrort -Lateral correctors left and right side hydraulic operated in 3 direction. -Included additional set of rolls for pipe 6" inches -Machine with 3 rolls driven system with individual hydraulic motor and axial gear-unit on each shaft. -The 3 shafts working on bearings, heavy duty type with sealed lubrication. -Centralized control panel movable on wheels with all electric commands. -Dual rolling speed up to 5 mtr/min with automatic balancing system between the 3 rolls. -Safety devices in compliance with European regulation. CE mark. -electric 30 Kw on the hydraulic power unit- voltage 380/50 -Digital position readout on the bending rolls -Manuals and schematics all available along with the machine. -Machine delivered in working condition. CAPACITY CHART IN ENCLOSED MG MODEL AR200 SECTION BENDING ROLL

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, Technical details: x-travel: 1800 mm y-travel: 1600 mm z-travel: 1400 mm B-axis (table): 360° size of pallet: 1000 x 1250 mm workpiece swing dia.: 2100 mm workpiece weight: 3500 kg Ljdpfx Agevgcrkersrt spindle taper ISO: 50 spindle drive motor: 37 kW spindle turning speed range: 25 - 10000 U/min feed range: 40/50 m/min rapid power traverse circular: 10 U/min total power requirement: 90 kVA weight of the machine ca.: 43 t dimensions of the machine ca.: 11 x 9 x 4,5 m Machine with SIemens 840 D control for 4 axis - full B-axis - palette changer - tool changer for 150 tools - coolant device with coolant through spindle - chip conveyor *

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 1,270 kg, load capacity: 250 kg, arm reach: 2,655 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: R-30iB, input voltage: 400 V, FANUC industrial robot Robot R-2000iB 250F, Year of construction 01.2014 (control cabinet 12.2013). Axes: 6, reach: 2,655 mm, Load capacity: 250 kg. Dimensions: Length 200 cm, width 110 cm, height 185 cm. Control cabinet: FANUC R-30iB. Complete with robot manipulator, connection cable, teach panel, control unit. (See type plates for further details). IPendant A05B-2255-C101#EGN We also offer accessories such as bases, spot-welding guns, rotary tables and much more. We are also happy to demonstrate the robot. Packaging and loading included. Lsdetk Nzljpfx Agrsrt

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2021, functionality: fully functional, Selling a tube conveyor system manufactured by BANSS, complete with infeed and outfeed conveyors, and pneumatic tube conveyor switches. The tube conveyors are equipped with sliding rails. The system has already been professionally dismantled and is ready for transport. It was only used for a short period. It is in very good condition. Plans from BANSS are available. The package also includes empty carrier conveyors and empty carrier tube conveyors. The images show the condition before dismantling. Lsdsz Dx Nmjpfx Agrert

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Used L + Z lathe with 3-axis digital readout Manufacturer: WEILER Type: Condor 81 B Machine. No.: 87596 Year of manufacture: approx. 1987 Center distance: 750 mm Turning diameter over bed: Ø 330 mm Center height above bed: 165 mm Ledpfxovadqzs Agrsrt Turning diameter over support: Ø 180 mm Center height above support: 90 mm Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Tailstock inner taper: MK 3 Pinol adjustment: 110 mm Spindle speed: 45 - 2800 rpm. (16 steps + 2 motor speeds) Feed range: 0.016 - 0.50 mm/rev Drive power: 1.6 + 3.2 kW (drive motor stage 1+2) Mains connection: 400 Volt, 50 Hz Connected load: 32 kW Control voltage: 42 Volt Equipment + accessories: - 3-axis digital readout from Heidenhain type VRZ 750 - Quick clamping device and various collets + draw tube - 3-jaw power chuck Ø 160 mm Forkardt F160 - Multifix size B quick-change steel holder - LED work light - Bed stop - Automatic longitudinal & face feeds - Electro-mechanical spindle brake switchable - 2x emergency stop - Electrical feed key query (via sleeve with button) - Coolant tank with pump in the machine base - Folding chuck guard - Splash guard - Circuit diagram - Adjustable machine feet Space requirement: 1850 x 950 x 1400 mm (L x W x H) Weight: approx. 1100 kg This new generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly and robust. Machine can be demonstrated on site under power. All information without guarantee. Subject to prior sale.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2018, operating hours: 2,006 h, functionality: fully functional, working width: 1,045 mm, area performance: 16,550 m²/h, overall weight: 2,635 kg, warranty duration: 12 months, tank capacity: 180 l, water tank capacity: 300 l, noise level: 92 dB, We offer a ride-on scrubber dryer Karcher B 300 R I D for sale. Catalogue number: 1.480-235.2 Year of manufacture: 2018 Operating hours: 2,006 h The machine is in very good condition—both visually and technically. It has undergone a comprehensive and detailed overhaul, making it fully operational and ready for immediate use. Every machine we offer is presented using actual photos—you buy exactly the machine shown in the pictures. All equipment purchased from us comes with a 12-month WARRANTY. Technical specifications: Drive type: Diesel Traction drive: Traction motor Working width (brushes) (mm): 1,045 Working width / suction (mm): 1,440 Water tank: clean/dirty (l): 300 / 300 Debris tank (l): 180 Theoretical area performance (m²/h): 16,550 Practical area performance (m²/h): 12,400 Lredpfxew A Aw De Agrot Battery supply (V/Ah): 12 / 80 Gradeability (%): 12 Brush speed (rpm): 460 - 460 Brush pressure (kg): 25 - 150 Water consumption (l/min): max. 12 Sound pressure level (dB(A)): 92 Permissible total weight (kg): 2,635 Dimensions (L x W x H) (mm): 2,490 x 1,570 x 1,860

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1979, MAN 19 280 F BREINING body FEDERAL Emulsion / Asphalt Sprayer Note: Suitable only for emulsion, not for liquid asphalt! Control panel for the superstructure located in the cab! Ljdpfx Agswmpcnerert • Manual transmission • Differential lock • Long-distance cab • 1 bunk • Leaf/leaf suspension • Tyres: 12 R 22.5 (alternative: 315 / 80 R 22.5) • Tank capacity: 6,000 litres emulsion • Burner NEW! • Spray bar foldable on both sides! Errors and prior sale excepted! = More information = Fuel type: Diesel Mileage: 67,000 km Applicable material: Asphalt Damages: Damaged vehicle (not drivable)