Used Robbi Group Cylindrical Grinding Machine for sale (68,793)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1983, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 8151, rotary table diameter: 800 mm, grinding height: 750 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 800 kg, total height: 4,100 mm, total width: 26,650 mm, total length: 44,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 750 mm, feed length Z-axis: 550 mm, overall weight: 13,000 kg, grinding wheel diameter: 400 mm, disc diameter: 400 mm, grinding spindle speed: 1,460 rpm, grinding diameter: 800 mm, control cabinet width: 650 mm, type of input current: DC, control cabinet height: 1,900 mm, control cabinet length: 1,800 mm, spindle speed (max.): 1,800 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 1,460 rpm, table load: 900 kg, workpiece diameter (max.): 850 mm, grinding wheel width: 60 mm, table width: 1,240 mm, power: 35 kW (47.59 HP), rapid traverse X-axis: 2 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 100 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 2 m/min, space requirement height: 4,100 mm, space requirement length: 5,100 mm, space requirement width: 2,655 mm, Good day, For sale is a well-preserved and completely functional Sielemann cylindrical grinding machine for the following applications: surface grinding, internal grinding and external grinding. The machine has a swivel stand with 3 different sanding heads for the respective area of application. Iasdpfxorntirs Ab Not Complete machine documentation is available and can be presented upon inspection. The Sielemann offered here has always been serviced and maintained, most recently the components listed below were replaced: - 3x New weight compensation cylinders - 1x new hydraulic unit (complete) - New guideway covers - Revised rotary table group Technical data Machine length: 4.400mm Machine width: 2,655mm Machine height: 4.100mm Machine weight: 13.000Kg Control cabinet width: 650mm Control cabinet height: 1.900mm Control cabinet length: 1.800mm Grinding table diameter: 800mm Grinding table load capacity: 800kg Grinding table drive power: 0.21 - 14.5KW Grinding table speed: 100 1/min (both directions) Grinding table workpiece clamping: Magnetic clamping plate incl. T-slots Z-axis travel (grinding table): 550mm Maximum grinding height (Y): 750mm Lubrication pump Masch. Bed: 0,18KW Lubrication pump Masch. Column: 0,1KW Leak oil pump: 0,065KW Hydraulic pump: 1.5KW 1) External round grinding head Spindle drive power: 11KW Spindle speed: 1,450 1/min Grinding wheel: 400x50mm Cone grinding spindle mount: D=65mm Taper pitch: 1:5 Feed speed (Y): 100 mm/min 2) Internal round grinding head Spindle drive power: 5.5KW Grinding wheel: Variable Feed speed (Y): 100 mm/min 3) Flat-round sanding head Spindle drive power: 11KW Spindle speed: 1,800 1/min Grinding wheel: 400x50mm Cone grinding spindle mount: D=65mm Taper pitch: 1:5 Feed speed (Y): 100 mm/min Viewing appointments possible at short notice by arrangement !!! With kind regards R.Suckow / Managing Director UNITTOOL Werkzeugmaschinen GmbH 33758 Schloß Holte Stukenbrock Görlitzerstraße 9

Condition: ready for operation (used), A conventional Schaudt external cylindrical grinding machine is available. Center distance: 1000mm, center height: 180mm, max. grinding diameter: 350mm, max. grinding length: 1000mm, plunge grinding length: 100mm, swivel range: 45°, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 3200mm/1700mm/1700mm, weight: approx. 4500kg. An on-site inspection is possible. Iasdpfxjyvixzj Ab Njt

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1987, functionality: fully functional, grinding length: 630 mm, grinding diameter: 320 mm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. grinding length: 630 mm Max. grinding diameter: 320 mm MACHINE DETAILS Manufacturer: TOS HOSTIVAR Model: BHU 32 Year of manufacture: 1987 Iajdpfxoyvf S Ne Ab Not

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 5064, Please let us know your asking price. Sale only within Europe, incl. Turkey Robot is not scope of supply - Robot not scope of supply Technical data see hand out Without packaging; any warranty rights are excluded. Should you wish to dismantle the system yourself, please inform us accordingly in your bid For the correctness of the technical data, for the completeness of accessories and tool equipment, and for compliance with all safety and environmental protection requirements specified in the accident prevention regulations. Iaedpeu Rdm Uefx Ab Not

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 5041, Please let us know your asking price. Sale only within Europe, incl. Turkey Iasdpfx Aou Izvhjb Not Robot is not scope of supply - Robot not scope of supply Technical data see hand out Without packaging; any warranty rights are excluded. Should you wish to dismantle the system yourself, please inform us accordingly in your bid For the correctness of the technical data, for the completeness of accessories and tool equipment, and for compliance with all safety and environmental protection requirements specified in the accident prevention regulations.

Condition: repair required (used), TSCHUDIN HTG400 sold as a parts donor. Mechanically, the machine is in good condition; electrically, it must be checked and repaired. The drive motors are functional. The same applies to the internal cylindrical grinding machine TRIPET AR 200 with internal grinding attachment and face grinding attachment. Ijdpfxsyt E Irs Ab Nsat Both machines are being offered for parts.

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: limited functionality, grinding length: 1,000 mm, grinding diameter: 400 mm, The machine was repaired by the manufacturer after a crash. Table and tailstock have been overhauled. The control system boots up and the machine is capable of grinding. Error: Dimensional accuracy not ensured, the wheel is pulled towards the workpiece during the grinding process. Isdpsyu T N Tsfx Ab Neat The machine can serve as a source for spare parts.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2010, grinding length 1025 mm grinding width 520 mm Control SINUMERIK 840 D tool taper HSK-A 63 A - axis ° workpiece weight 30 kg distance grinding spindle - table min./max. 473,5 - 1023,5 mm x-axis 520 mm y-axis 550 mm z-axis 1000 mm V-axis 166 mm Iedpfx Abevxwino Neat feed x-axis 4 - 6.000 mm/min feed y- axis 4 - 4.000 mm/min Feed z- axis 30 - 25.000 mm / min. table dimensions 1.400 x 874 mm spindle speeds (infinitely variable) 0 - 12.000 U/min power capacity - grinding motor 35,00 kW grinding wheel diam. min/max. 100 / 300 grinding wheel width 60 mm total power requirement 100,00 kW weight of the machine ca. 11,00 t dimensions of the machine ca. 8,60 x 7,25 x H3,80 m 5 Axis Profile grinding machine, with SIEMENS SIN840D, double dividing head (B-C axis), V-axis (coolant nozzles), EROWA tool changing device (machine can also be operated without a tool changer), fire extinguishing device, Renishaw probe prepared. Without Host-Computer for workpiece- tool-management. without coolant device - was connected to the central supply.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 200 h, functionality: fully functional, workpiece weight (max.): 150 kg, grinding length: 500 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 455 mm, grinding diameter: 300 mm, workpiece weight between centers: 150,000 g, type of input current: three-phase, workpiece diameter between centers: 300 mm, workpiece length between centers: 500 mm, grinding wheel width: 75 mm, spindle speed (max.): 500 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 10 rpm, grinding spindle motor power: 7,500 W, overall weight: 4,600 kg, warranty duration: 12 months, year of last overhaul: 2026, Demonstration CNC cylindrical grinding machine prepared for automation Manufacturer: OKAMOTO Model: OGM-350 P NCIII Year of manufacture: 2023 Control system: Fanuc Oi Model D Operating hours: approx. 200 h Technical Specifications Max. swing diameter: 320 mm Max. distance between centers: 500 mm Max. workpiece diameter to be ground: 300 mm Max. workpiece weight between centers: 150 kg Max. workpiece weight (flange + chuck + workpiece): 40 kg Iedeytqagepfx Ab Neat Grinding Wheel Dimension (Diameter x Width x Bore): 455 x 75 x 127 mm Wheel speed: stepless Peripheral speed: 45 m/sec Grinding spindle head (X-axis) Travel, max.: 300 mm Swivel angle: not swiveling Workpiece table (Z-axis) Travel: 870 mm Swivel angle: 0 – 10° Workpiece spindle head Type: fixed/pivoting Spindle taper: MT 4 Spindle bore diameter: 20 mm Spindle speed: 10 – 500 rpm Swivel angle: not swiveling Tailstock Type: manual fine adjustment Quill travel: 30 mm Taper: MT 4 Drive Power Grinding wheel drive: 5.5 kW Total connected load: 20 kVA Dimensions / Weight L x W x H approx.: 3400 x 2330 x 1950 mm Machine Weight approx.: 4,600 kg Standard Equipment Carbide center points: 2 pcs Complete FANUC keyboard with radius compensation for generating ISO programs Workshop programming graphical software for grinding and dressing cycles with teach function GAP eliminator Shoulder positioning Constant coolant flushing of the table LED lamp Documentation Leveling bolts and base plates Operator tool set Accessories Robot interface automatic machine shutdown 3-color signal lamp Precise positioning of the work spindle for workpiece loading dial gauge for table swivel angle balancing arbor automatic door complete grinding wheel guard when the door is open tailstock with electric quill retraction flange: 1 pc belt filter system Commissioning and training upon request. (Commissioning by Okamoto is required for warranty) Transport on request

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, operating hours: 9,999 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 119 118, Schaudt – GSN Schleiftechnik Ijdoxdcx Ijpfx Ab Noat Model: PS4 Year of manufacture: approx. 1986, completely overhauled/retrofitted in 2020 Control: CNC, Siemens SINUMERIK 840D after retrofit Application: External cylindrical grinding; plunge, oscillation, and face grinding possible

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, operating hours: 65,434 h, General Specifications Machine Type: Universal Cylindrical Grinding Machine Year of Manufacture: 2002 Control System: SIEMENS 840D Grinding Length: 600 mm (between centers) Max. Swing Over Bed: ~300 mm (approximate, depending on configuration) Max. Workpiece Weight: ~150 kg (depending on setup) Grinding Wheel Grinding Wheel Diameter: ~400-500 mm (standard) Grinding Wheel Width: ~50-100 mm (depending on application) Grinding Wheel Speed: ~30-60 m/s (adjustable) Workhead Workhead Spindle Speed: ~10-500 rpm (variable, depending on workpiece material and grinding requirements) Workhead Spindle Taper: Typically Morse taper or custom taper for specific applications Tailstock Tailstock Quill Travel: ~50-100 mm (adjustable) Tailstock Taper: Morse taper (e.g., MT4 or MT5, depending on configuration) CNC System Control Type: Siemens, Fanuc, or other CNC systems (depending on configuration) Axes: Typically 2-4 axes (X, Z, U, and optionally B-axis for angular grinding) Positioning Accuracy: ~0.001 mm (1 micron) or better Coolant System Coolant Tank Capacity: ~200 L Coolant Pump Power: ~1-2 kW Power Requirements Isdpfx Aevzriusb Nsat Main Motor Power: ~10-15 kW (grinding spindle) Total Power Consumption: ~20-30 kW Dimensions and Weight Machine Dimensions (L x W x H): ~3000 x 2000 x 2000 mm (approximate) Machine Weight: 5000 KG Applications Precision grinding of cylindrical and non-cylindrical workpieces Suitable for small to medium-sized components in industries like automotive, aerospace, and tool manufacturing

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2020, Machine Type: Cylindrical Grinding Machine Manufacturer: Schaudt Maschinenbau GmbH Model: PS 4 Year of Original Manufacture: 1986 Renovation/Retrofit: 2020 Control System (Post-Retrofit): Siemens CNC SINUMERIK 840D General Specifications Application: External cylindrical grinding Grinding Method: Plunge, traverse, face grinding Control Type: CNC (Siemens retrofit in 2020) Machine Weight: Approx. 3,500 – 4,500 kg Installation Area: Approx. 3.5 m x 2.0 m Workpiece Capacity Center Height: 180 mm Distance Between Centers: 1000 mm (varies by version) Max Workpiece Diameter: 360 mm Max Workpiece Weight: ~150 kg between centers Grinding Spindle Grinding Wheel Diameter: 400 mm Grinding Wheel Width: 50 mm Bore: 127 mm Peripheral Speed: Up to 45 m/s Spindle Drive Power: ~7.5 kW Spindle Speed Range: Up to 1,500 – 2,500 rpm (depending on wheel size) Headstock Type: Fixed or rotating spindle Speed Range (if motorized): ~30 – 500 rpm Taper: MK4 or similar Drive: AC Servo (post-retrofit) Tailstock Type: Manual or hydraulically actuated Quill Stroke: Approx. 50 mm Quill Diameter: ~75 mm Axes X-Axis (infeed): CNC-controlled Z-Axis (longitudinal): CNC-controlled Resolution: 0.001 mm Drive Type: Digital servo motors with ball screw Position Feedback: Absolute/Incremental linear encoders Iaodpfxjw Avrzj Ab Njt Coolant System Coolant Tank Capacity: Approx. 150 – 250 liters Coolant Pump: High-pressure, with filtration system Other Features (Post-Retrofit) Siemens HMI with touch interface Electronic handwheels (MPG) Updated safety system and enclosure New electrical cabinet with ventilation and cooling Optional AE sensor for gap detection or touch dressing

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, grinding length: 900 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Maximum grinding length: 900 mm Distance between centers: 600 mm Height of centers (standard): 125 mm Height of centers with raised headstock and tailstock blocks: 175 - 250 mm Maximum swing diameter with riser blocks: 350 - 500 mm Table swivel / each side: 10° Table reversal dwell time: 0 - 5 s Diameter / width / bore: 250 x 13 x 76 mm Grinding wheel spindle speeds: 360 rpm Cross movement of grinding wheel head: 285 mm Rapid infeed and retraction of wheel head: 40 mm Intermittent feed per table reversal: 0.001 - 0.03 mm Micro-adjustment of feed, 1 division on dial: 0.001 mm Continuously variable working speeds (normal / special): 20 - 400 / 10 - 400 rpm Iedpjytf Tbsfx Ab Noat MACHINE DETAILS Control type: Conventional

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 200 h, functionality: fully functional, center height: 175 mm, center width: 650 mm, The machine was accepted by Studer and has never been put into operation. Iaedpfxsyttcqo Ab Njt

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1994, grinding diameter 300 mm grinding length 600 mm workpiece weight 80 kg grinding wheel diameter 508 mm Control Siemens type 840 C grinding spindle speed 45 m/s power capacity - grinding motor 7,5 kW z-axis 865 mm x-axis 250 mm centre distance 1000 mm number of turns of spindle head 1-800 U/min weight of the machine ca. 4,85 t The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop Ijdpeyqv A Uofx Ab Nsat If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2025, Offered is a CNC controled universal cylindrical grinding machine EMAG Weiss W 11 CNC. The machine is suitable for external-interna- face and cylindrical grinding. The W 11 CNC cylindrical grinding machine is perfect for one-offs- / prototype- and serial production. This cylindrical grinding machine is also used for sample production in the field of training and maintenance. CONTROL Eckelmann TECHNICAL DATA Workpiece length: max. 1.500 mm Iedpfjr Ey Huox Ab Njat Center height: 200 mm | Option 320 mm Workpiece weight: 250 kg Workhead: MK 4 | Option MK5 / MK6 Tailstock: MK 4 TOOL CARRIER Single wheel straight / incliend, but also possible 2 wheels on B-axis combined with internal grinding spindle. Price, delivery time and equipment of the machine according to agreement.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1993, External cylindrical grinding machine Manufacturer: TOS Type: BUB 40-1000 Year: 1993 Control: Cetos K 51 WORKING AREA CYLINDRICAL GRINDING Max. swing diameter 400 mm Workpiece weight between centers (max) 500 kg Workpiece weight one-side clamped (max) 100 kg WORKING AREA EXTERNAL GRINDING Max. grinding diameter 400 mm Min. grinding diameter 10 mm Grinding length 1000 mm TABLE – CYLINDRICAL GRINDING Swiveling (B-direction) from 8.5 ° Rotation range B-axis up to -4.5 ° Longitudinal travel 1200 mm WORKPIECE SPINDLE STOCK Swiveling (B-direction) from 0 ° Rotation range B-axis up to 90 ° Spindle bore 40 mm Number of gear stages 2 Drive power 9.5 kW Tool holder MK 5 TAILSTOCK Quill stroke 40 mm Quill fitting MK 5 Contact force (max.) 4 kN GRINDING SPINDLE STOCK Swiveling (B-direction) from -15 ° Rotation range B-axis up to 45 ° GRINDING WHEEL Type: grinding wheel, disc Diameter (max) 500 mm Bore: diameter 203 mm Width 80 mm ELECTRICAL CONNECTION DATA Connected load 16 kVA Connection voltage 400 V Network frequency 50 Hz DIMENSIONS / WEIGHTS Required space -left/right- 4700 mm Required space -front/back- 2050 mm Total height 1900 mm Total weight approx. 5400 kg ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT (GRINDING) Balancing device yes Machine in well-maintained condition Iaodpfx Abswp D Auo Not Workpiece spindle stock swivels 90° Grinding spindle stock swivels -15°, +45° Table swivels +8°30' - 4°30' Accessories: - hydrostatic spindle - various corundum grinding wheels - 2 diamond grinding wheels - Balancing head MPM, renewed in 2021 - Filter system - Extraction system

Condition: good (used), center height: 215 mm, grinding length: 1,500 mm, total width: 2,300 mm, total length: 5,530 mm, total height: 2,100 mm, grinding diameter: 430 mm, Matrix Okuma Universal Cylindrical Grinder Model: GU – 40 Max Dia Ground: 430mm Iajdpfx Ajyglhfob Not Max Between Centres: 1500mm Wheel Size: 355 x 50 x 127mm Headstock Speed: 10-150 RPM Variable Table Swivels: 8 Degree Machine With: Coolant Filtration Tank Steadies Internal Grinding Attachment with Quill Dimensions: 5530 x 2300 x 2100mm High Weight: 6200 Kgs

Condition: good (used), center height: 200 mm, grinding length: 1,600 mm, grinding wheel diameter: 450 mm, grinding diameter: 400 mm, Mostana Horizontal Spindle Grinder Model: 3L722B-80 Capacity: 1600 x 400 x 400mm Iodpfsyglc Ajx Ab Nsat Long Travel: 1780mm Cross Travel: 430mm VerticalTravel: 415mm Grinding Wheel: 450 x 80 x 203mm Spindle Motor: 11 KW Machine With: Rapid Traverse Vertical Incremental Downfeed Magnetic Chuck: 1575 x 400mm Coolant Clarifier Digital Readout Dimensions: 5940 x 2660 x 2600mm High Weight: 8000 KGS

Condition: used, grinding diameter 360 mm grinding length 1000 mm centre height 260 mm grinding wheel dia. x width 500x80 mm The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non- binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. Iajdpfx Ajyqv Udsb Njt About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, (Please tell us your offer price) Sale only within Europe, incl. Turkey Price without packaging; delivery condition: FCA (machine location) ===== Technical data see handout. Iaodpfow A Axbox Ab Not All warranty rights are excluded. For the correctness of the technical data and year of construction, for the completeness of accessories and tool equipment, and for compliance with all safety and environmental protection requirements specified in the accident prevention regulations. No sale to private individuals. Sales only within Europe, incl. Turkey Price without packaging; Delivery condition: FCA (machine location) ===== Technical data please see handout in attachment. German text leading language. Without any guaranty and warranty, including completeness of tools & accessories as well as environmental and safety regulations. No private sales.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2025, Schaudt PS51 S600 - Premium overhauled - Sanding length: 600 mm - Center height: 180 mm - Grinding wheel width: 220 mm (optionally more possible) - Workpiece weight: 200 kg Further freely selectable options: - Completely new control cabinet with Siemens Sinumerik One or Fanuc 0iTF-Plus - Quick set-up via GSN user interface - In process measuring control DMK / LMK - Dressing spindle for diamond form roll - Balancing and grinding sensors - Hydraulic clamping/unclamping of tailstock - Autom. Siemens door drive - Remote maintenance - Conversion to needle nozzles Iaedpfx Absfg Utde Not - Suitable coolant / extraction system - Automation preparation - and much more. We can also overhaul your existing storage machine! Schaudt / Studer / Kellenberger / Bahmüller / Voumard / Overbeck / Fortuna / Tacchella and much more.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2025, Studer S30 Center height: 125 mm center width: 650 mm Workpiece weight: 80 kg Other freely selectable options: - Completely new control cabinet with SPS-Basic and panel - Conversion to ball screw incl. SPS-Pro (cycle controlled) - "Workpiece memory"-SPS-PRO for 10/15/30/50 workpieces - Glass scale in X- and Z-axis - Swiveling internal grinding device Iodpfjd Hdxwex Ab Njat - Motor spindle for internal grinding device - Frequency converter external grinding spindle - Frequency converter for internal grinding spindle - Grinding sensor system - Contact protection on external grinding spindle - Safety door - manually operated - Grinding wheel flange - LED spot with flex arm - suitable coolant system

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2025, Voumard internal cylindrical grinding machine Center height: 180 mm (optionally more possible) Grinding depth: 200 mm Iajdjhpn Sxepfx Ab Njt Workpiece weight: 170 kg Further freely selectable options - Completely new control cabinet with SPS-Basic and panel - Conversion to ball screw drive incl. PLC-Pro (cycle-controlled) - "Workpiece memory" SPS-PRO for 10/15/30/50 workpieces - Mini hand-held operating device for SPS-PRO - Rotary encoder in swivel axis - Glass scale in Z-axis - Frequency converter for internal grinding spindle - Conversion of slide to pneumatic lift-off - Center elevation - CE marking in conjunction with partially or fully encapsulated splash water enclosure - Remote maintenance - Suitable coolant / extraction system - and much more. We can also overhaul your existing storage machine! Schaudt / Studer / Kellenberger / Bahmüller / Voumard / Overbeck / Fortuna / Tacchella and much more.

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2025, Schaudt A500 500-2500 grinding length: 500 / 750 / 1.000 / 1.500 / 2.000 / 2.500 mm Iaedpfx Absd Hfd Ns Nst center height: 150 mm / 180 mm / 225mm Workpiece weight: 300 kg / 500 kg Other freely selectable options: - Completely new control cabinet with SPS-Basic and panel - Conversion to ball screw incl. DUO-Control (cycle controlled) - "Workpiece memory" for 10/15/30/50 workpieces - Mini operating handset for Duo-Control - Glass scale in X- and Z-axis - Grinding sensor system - Frequency converter external grinding spindle - Swing-in internal grinding unit - Frequency converter internal grinding spindle - CE marking in connection with partial or full enclosure for splash water - remote maintenance - suitable coolant / exhaust system - grinding wheel flange / exchange arm - and much more We can also overhaul your existing bearing machine! Schaudt / Studer / Kellenberger / Bahmüller / Voumard / Overbeck / Fortuna / Tacchella uvm.