Used Cnc Floor Type Boring And Milling Machin for sale (94,776)

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2017, Year: 2017 Control: Heidenhain iTNC 640 HSCI Location: Germany, under power Travels X Longitudinal: 14100 mm Y Vertical: 5000 mm Z Ram: 1550 mm Headstock Spindle power: 51/36 (40%/100%) KW Spindle Torque: 1500 NM Spindle speed: 5000 rpm Spindle Taper: ISO 50 Ram size: 420 x 420 mm C- axis integrated: 0.001° - continuous Desh gearbox Heads and Head changer Automatic pickup station for: 3 places Head 1: Uhami 30 continuous A and C axis 180°+, 180°- Head 2: Uhami 30 continuous A and C axis 180°+, 180°- (New in 2022) Head 3: horizontal spindle extension: 400 mm Head 4: horizontal spindle extension: 800 mm Head 5: ISO 40 vertical head to be mounted on horizontal spindle extension Tables Table 1 Size: 3000 x 3000 mm V- Travel: 2400 mm Table load capacity: 50 Tonnes Table 2 Size: 2500 x 2000 mm Gjdey D Tzpspfx Ahveiu V- Travel: 2400 mm Table load capacity: 30 Tonnes Additional information: Floor plates: 2 pcs. 4000 mm x 2000 mm, 2 pcs. 5000 mm x 2000 mm Working Area separation Tool changer Robot type Spindle through coolant Chip conveyor 3D probe Movable operator platform Wireless Handwheel CE marking Approx. 14000 programming hours Continous heads, continous tables

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, travel distance X-axis: 8,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,100 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,300 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 36 rpm, table width: 5,500 mm, table length: 2,600 mm, total height: 4,900 mm, total width: 16,200 mm, total length: 9,000 mm, overall weight: 55,100 kg, CNC Floor Type Bed Milling Machine CNC Control Heidenhain iTNC 530 Controlled NC Table 1600 x 1600 mm Table dimensions 5500 x 2600 mm Movement X-axis 8000 mm Movement Y-axis 2100 mm Movement Z-axis 1300 mm Gsdpjza Egnsfx Ahvjiu Movement W-axis 1000 mm C-axis-swivel of milling head body 360 ° A-axis-swivel of milling head 180° Spindle speed 36 - 6.000 R/min Spindle motor 42 / 30 kW Spindle taper DIN 69871-SK 50 Tools in tool magazine 48 If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Condition: excellent (used), SPINDLE 130 MM LONGITUDINAL : 4000 MM VERTICAL: 2500 MM ACCESORIES: FACING HEAD Gijdpfx Aozazpfehvju VERTICAL HEAD 2 FLOOR PLATES

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2017, Control: Heidenhain iTNC 640 HSCI Location: Germany, under power Travels X Longitudinal: 14100 mm Gedpfx Aoy D T Hljhvjiu Y Vertical: 5000 mm Z Ram: 1550 mm Headstock Spindle power: 51/36 (40%/100%) KW Spindle Torque: 1500 NM Spindle speed: 5000 rpm Spindle Taper: ISO 50 Ram size: 420 x 420 mm C- axis integrated: 0.001° - continuous Desh gearbox Heads and Head changer Automatic pickup station for: 3 places Head 1: Uhami 30 continuous A and C axis 180°+, 180°- Head 2: Uhami 30 continuous A and C axis 180°+, 180°- (New in 2022) Head 3: horizontal spindle extension: 400 mm Head 4: horizontal spindle extension: 800 mm Head 5: ISO 40 vertical head to be mounted on horizontal spindle extension Tables Table 1 Size: 3000 x 3000 mm V- Travel: 2400 mm Table load capacity: 50 Tonnes Table 2 Size: 2500 x 2000 mm V- Travel: 2400 mm Table load capacity: 30 Tonnes Additional information: Floor plates: 2 pcs. 4000 mm x 2000 mm, 2 pcs. 5000 mm x 2000 mm Working Area separation Tool changer Robot type Spindle through coolant Chip conveyor 3D probe Movable operator platform Wireless Handwheel CE marking Approx. 14000 programming hours Continous heads, continous tables

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1996, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 10,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, Manufacturer: PAMA Model:SPEEDRAM 1 CNC Year1996 Spindle:140mm. Tranversal travel:10.000 mm. Vertical travel:2.600 mm. RAM travel:600 mm. Ram Size: 360x320 Gisdpfxswzh Apo Ahvou Spindle travel:700 mm. Spindle taper:ISO 50 Spindle motor power:50 Kw. Spindle speeds: 6 ÷ 2000 Rpm. Cnc:CNC Selca 3045 ATC: 60nos. Total weight:65 Tons. Features and Accessories Complete with: - n. 1 automatic universal milling head - n. 1 Floor plate 6000x2500x300mm -n. 1 Floor plate 4500x2000x300mm - Rotry Table 2000x1600 with long travel 2000mm -Loading capacity on table:15ton - levelling shoes

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2011, Retrofitted: 2026 Numerical control: HEIDENHAIN TNC-i530 Technical features Dimensions Table dimensions: 10000 x 2250 mmNumber of T slots: 9T slots dimensions: 22 mm Traverses of axis X axis traverse: 10000 mmY axis traverse: 1500 mmZ axis traverse: 2500 mmVertical capacity (VC): 150 - 2650 mm  (adjustable) Milling head Head type: Universal Auto-indexing UDG (2.5º)Tool clamping system: HydraulicTaper nose: ISO 50 (DIN 69871) / Pull stud: DIN 69872Speed range: 3000 rpmSpindle power: 30 kW Feedrates Rapid feedrate (X / Y,Z): 30000 mm/min Weight and dimensions Maximum weight on table: 15 Tn/m2Machine weight approximate: 56000 kgMachine dimensions approximate: 16520 x 8575 x 5290 mm Accessories Guarding: front sliding doors and new perimetral wire-mesh fenceAutomatic tool changer: ATC40Chip conveyor: 1 longitudinal rear hinge typeElectronic handwheel: HR-410Coolant: external internal high-pressure coolant through spindle Sale conditions Warranty: 6 months mechanical partsPrice and sale conditions: On request View all technical features Gedpfx Aozcz Srshvsiu

Condition: good (used), Mikron WF 41C CNC Universal Milling and Boring Machine Professional, extremely robust MIKRON WF 41C CNC universal milling and boring machine. Thanks to its sturdy construction, the machine is ideally suited for workshops, prototype manufacturing, maintenance, or demanding toolmaking applications. The machine is equipped with the proven HEIDENHAIN TNC 155 contouring control. It is extremely easy to program directly at the machine thanks to plain-language conversational guidance; it supports graphic simulations and allows for the easy loading of external CNC programs via the serial interface (ideal for CAD/CAM applications). Technical Data Overview CNC Control Model: HEIDENHAIN TNC 155 Operating modes: Manual operation (like digital readout), positioning with manual input, single block, block sequence, program test (graphic simulation) Interface: V.24 / RS-232-C for data transfer Feed Drives & Travel Ranges Gisdjzcqf Iepfx Ahvsu X-axis travel (table longitudinal, automatic): 630 mm Y-axis travel (spindle slide transverse, automatic): 500 mm Z-axis travel (table vertical, automatic): 460 mm Feed rate: Infinitely variable from 1 – 3000 mm/min in all 3 axes Rapid traverse speed: X- and Y-axis: 6000 mm/min | Z-axis: 4000 mm/min Max. vertical installation height: 559 mm (between vertical milling head and angle table) Milling spindle drive Spindle speeds: 21 gear stages Speed ​​range: 31.5 – 3150 rpm Spindle motor power: 6.0 / 8.0 kW Tool holder: ISO 40 / M16 with pull stud groove (SK 40 DIN 2080) Quill travel (vertical): 90 mm Table geometry & workpiece capacity Angle table clamping surface: 500 x 1000 mm T-slots: 7 (spacing: 63 mm, width: 14-H7 mm) Vertical clamping surface: 397 x 550 mm (with 4 x 4 M16 threaded holes, 90 mm spacing) Max. recommended workpiece weight: 500 kg Electrics & cooling Electrical connected load: 13.5 kW Coolant tank volume: approx. 100 liters Dimensions & weights Machine dimensions (machine only): 1745 mm (L) x 1501 mm (W) x 2124 mm (H) Max. operating footprint (incl. control arm): 2930 mm (L) x 2115 mm (W) x 2125 mm (H) Machine weight (net): 3100 kg (incl. vertical milling head and angle table) "Everything from a single source: We would be happy to offer you suitable bank financing for your project." komplett-konzept.leasingo.de You can find more items—new and used—in our shop! International shipping costs on request!

Condition: used, Technical details: spindle diameter: 150 mm x-travel: 10000 mm y-travel: 2500 mm bore spindle stroke: 700 mm ram stroke: 700 dimension of the ram: 340 x 340 mm spindle taper ISO: 50 Speed of boring spindles: 1,25 - 1250 U/min. feed speeds infinitely variable: 1 - 5000 mm/min rapid traverse: 5 m/min total power requirement: 120 kW Gijdpfjwg R Swex Ahveu weight of the machine ca.: 115 t dimensions of the machine ca.: 15,1 x 10 x 6,4 m with CNC SIEMENS 840 Dsl complete retrofit in 2010 FIBRO CNC rotary table 2500 x 2500 mm, 50 to. loading capacity, longitudinal movement 2500 mm, angular milling head 4 x 90° universal milling head floor plate area ca. 12000 x 6000 mm ( 72 m²) chip conveyor and coolant attachment aerostatic guideways *

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Ref. -No.: 10621 Manufacturer: PAMA Type: Speedmat 3/TR16 Year of construction: 2008 Type of control: CNC-Steuerung Control: SIEMENS SINUMERIK 840 D PL Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Italy X-Travel: 3500 mm Y-Travel: 2500 mm Z-Travel: 2200 mm W-Axis: 800 mm Bore Spindle Diameter: 160 mm Table Load: 12000 kg Tool Taper: ISO 50 BIG PLUS Turning Speeds: 3500 RPM Max. Torque: 2.765 Nm Gsdpfxezc D Dwo Ahvjiu Rapid Travel X/Y/Z: 25000 mm / min Drive Capacity - Spindle Motor: 46 kW Internal cooling: 15 / 45 bar External cooling: 50 / 4 bar Table surface: 1600 x 2000 mm Spindle speed gear stage 1: 2.120 1 / min Spindle speed gear stage 2: 2.765 1 / min Further information: Automatic tool changer SK50 DIN 69871, 80 positions. Automatic angle milling head TS 35 with 360 positions, speed 2,000 rpm and torque 2,000 Nm. Automatic universal milling head TU25C (2-axis), speed 3,000 rpm and torque 800 Nm. Automatic accessory changer, 2+1 units. Touch probe (Renishaw). The machine can be inspected under power.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2004, Ref. -No.: 10604 Manufacturer: UNION Type: TC 110 Year of construction: 2004 Type of control: CNC-Steuerung Gjdpfxjzc D A Hs Ahvoiu Control: SINUMERIK 840 D Powerline Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany X-Travel: 2000 mm Y-Travel: 1250 mm Z-Travel: 1000 mm W-Axis: 550 mm Table Height: 1050 mm Spindle Diameter: 110 mm Table Dimensions (Lengthxwidth): 1600 x 1250 mm Number of T-slots: 10 Max. Workpiece Weight: 6000 kg Clamping Area: 1250 mm T - groove width: 22 mm T - slot spacing: 125 mm Tool Taper: ISO 50 Max. Torque: 1639 Nm Feed Speeds X/Y/Z Axis: 6000 mm / min Rapid Traverse X-Axis: 15000 m / min Rapid Travel Y-Axis: 15000 m / min Rapid Traverse Z-Axis: 15000 m / min Feed Capacities X/Y/Z: 16000 x 16000 x 20000 N swivel angle: 360 ° Further information: Includes angle head 0,001° The machine can be viewed under power.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1981, Ref. -No.: 10447 Manufacturer: SKODA Type: WD 200 Year of construction: 1981 Retrofit: 2010 Type of control: CNC-Steuerung Control: SIEMENS SINUMERIK 840D Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany X-Travel: 9000 mm Y-Travel: 4000 mm Z-Travel: 1450 mm W-Axis: 2000 mm Bed width: 2000 mm Bed height: 550 mm Spindle Diameter: 200 mm Quill Stroke: 1600 mm Rotary Table (Lxw): 4000 x 4000 mm Gjdpfezc Dyxox Ahveiu Table Load: 80000 kg Clamping Area: 3000 x 3000 mm Turning Speeds: 257 - 2570 RPM Spindle taper: 120 Automatic feeds: 342 mm / rev Spindle Turning Speed - Stepless: 1,5 - 630 RPM Max. Torque On The Boring Spindle: 20000 Nm Rapid Traverse: 16000 m / min Drive Capacity - Spindle Motor: 9,8 - 35,5 kW Total Power Requirement: 75 kW Bore Depth: 2000 mm Vertical headstock movement on the column: 3150 mm transverse movement of the stand on the bed: 4000 mm Lowest position of the spindle axis above the bed: 1100 mm Spindle speed when moving the quill forward: 1,6 - 300 max. rpm Drill feeds (spindle, quill) continuously variable in the range: 1,6 - 1600 mm / min Milling feeds (headstock vertical, column horizontal) infinitely variable: 1,6 - 1600 mm / min Machine length: 11350 mm Machine width: 5450 mm Machine Height: 7350 mm Weight Of The Machine Ca.: 65 t Further information: Threading: 22 metric threads, pitch range 0.5 - 12mm 32 Whitworth threads, pitch range 28 - 1 (gears) Accessories: - console for tools - 1 set of operating tools - ejector and fastening wedges for spindle - lubricating press - 1 set of spare parts for electrical equipment - clamping base plate - setting stick with electrical equipment Machine can be inspected under power by appointment.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1990, spindle diameter 150 mm x-travel 4000 mm y-travel 3000 mm z-travel 1000 mm w-travel 1500 mm Table area 2000x2000 mm Table load 30 t Feed 3-3500 mm/min Rapid movement 5000 mm/min transmission ratio 2 spindle power 37 kW voltage 380 V Gedsyqtf Tjpfx Ahvoiu frequency 50 Hz Control Heidenhain type ITNC mm The tech. Data are manufacturer or operator information and therefore non-binding. We reserve the right to prior sale; Our terms and conditions of sale apply exclusively. About us More than 400 of our own machines in stock Over 15,000 m² of storage space, 70 t crane capacity More than 10,000 items and accessories for your workshop If you are interested in selling machines, production lines, or your business, please contact us. You can find further offers on our website. Tours are possible by appointment. We look forward to your visit. Your Markus Hirsch Team

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2007, Table size 2200 x 1000 mm Longitudinal travel 2050 mm Gisdpfxeg Tdavj Ahveu Cross travel 1150 mm Vertical travel 760 mm Spindle speeds 12.000 rpm Spindle taper ISA 40 Power feed 1 - 8.000 mm/min Rapid speed Z-axe 15 m/min Rapid speed X - Y axis 20 m/min Control Heidenhain IT 530 NC Tool change 40 pcs

Condition: excellent (used), X-axis: 6,000 mm Y-axis: 1,500 mm Z-axis: 1,500 mm Godpfozcpwvex Ahvjiu Max. workpiece size: 6,000 x 1,500 x 1,500 mm Spindle connection: SK50 Spindle speed: 4,000 rpm Control system: HEIDENHAIN TNC 426 Including documentation. Machine was overhauled in 2002, is in very good condition, and can be inspected while powered on.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, Technical details: spindle diameter: 180 mm x-travel: 6.000 mm y-travel: 2.900 mm total power requirement: 95 kW weight of the machine ca.: 130 mit Zubehör t z-travel: 1.250 Ram mm w-axis: 1000 Spindel mm ram stroke: 1250 mm dimension of the ram: 450 x 450 mm bore spindle stroke: 1000 mm bore spindle turning speed range: 920 1/min powered rotary table: IOS 40 CNC 2 Achsen B u.V Rotary-table: 3000 x 3500 mm Gisdpfx Ahsru Rfhsvju Rotary-table: CNC-IOS 40 NC mm stepless adjustable, relative to diameter: Index 4x 90° -360000 Winkel =0,001 Grad mm travel - cross: Längs 1230 mm table load of rotary table max.: 40 Tonnen clamping plate: 3 x 8000 x 2000 mm CNC Ram-Type Floor Boring and Milling machine, dismantled and stored The headstock sliding guides were recoated and scraped. *

Condition: used, CNC Gantry-Type Boring and Milling Machine ANAYAK Type HVM-3800-P Bed type milling machine, structure similar to a plate-type boring mill with fixed table Machine No.: M-20021203 Year of manufacture: 2002 ("Refurbished 2025") The machine will be completely workshop overhauled in 2025 and can then be inspected in storage at 37235 Hessisch Lichtenau. Travel distances: X: 3,200 mm, Y: 1,200 mm, Z: 1,500 mm Table size: 3,800 x 1,200 mm T-slots: 8 pieces, 22 mm, spacing 130 mm Table load: max. 25 tons (stationary table – virtually unlimited load capacity) Spindle taper: ISO 50 (DIN69871-A) (drawbar: DIN 69872-B) Spindle speed: 60 – 4,000 rpm, stepless Feed rate: up to 10,000 mm/min, stepless Rapid traverse X + Y: 20 m/min Rapid traverse Z: 10 m/min Spindle drive: 22 / 30 kW Electrical connection: 400 Volt, 50 Hz, 50 kVA - Automatic tool changer for 30 tools - Spindle drive with 2 speed ranges - With automatic tool changer and tool magazine - Orthogonal milling head with hydro-mechanical tool clamping - Orthogonal milling head fully automatic swiveling in two 45° planes – B+C axis - HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 control, with electronic handwheel - Prepared for wireless touch probe (probe and receiver not included) - Additional HF-spindle, 18,000 rpm – for attachment - Free-standing control cabinet - Chip conveyor positioned between the gantry bed and the machine table - 32,078 operating hours recorded - Coolant system Gjdpfx Aexcgtgohvjiu - Free-standing hydraulic unit - Operating manual with circuit diagrams Installation area (L x W): approx. 1,000 x 700 cm Installation height: approx. 410 cm Weight (total): approx. 33 tons Good condition

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1966, spindle diameter 75 mm x-travel 700 mm y-travel 800 mm Z-axis (spindle headbox - vertical) 700 mm W-axis (spindle longitudinal) 700 mm table surface area 700 x 800 mm table load 1500 Kg Giedpfx Ahozafk Hjveu spindle speed: 17 - 1700 U/min tool taper MK 5 weight of the machine ca. 6,0 t dimensions 3,6 x 2,0 x 2,45 m Table-type Boring Mill - Digital readout - Morse taper tooling - Coolant system - Telescopic covers - Machine lamp - Operating manual

Condition: used, travel distance X-axis: 16,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 3,500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 37 W, X-AXIS TRAVEL: 16,000 MM Z-AXIS TRAVEL: 1,500 MM Y-AXIS TRAVEL: 3,500 MM SPINDLE MOTOR POWER: 37 KG SPINDLE NOSE CONNECTION: ISO 50 SPINDLE SPEED: 4,000 RPM HEIDENHAIN iTNC 430 CNC 80-POT TOOL CHANGER 2.5° X 2.5° AUTOMATIC HEAD INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL COOLANT HEXAGON WORKPIECE PROBE Gsdjx A Ulwspfx Ahvsiu 2000 X 2000 MM ROTARY-TRANSLATING TABLE, 15 TON LOAD CAPACITY, 1500 MM V-AXIS STROKE OPERATOR CABIN WITH OPERATOR FIXED PLATES CHIP CONVEYOR

Condition: used, X AXIS STROKE 4500 MM Y AXIS STROKE 1700 MM ( VERTICAL ) Z AXIS STROKE 1000 MM ISO 50 SPINDLE SPEED 3000 RPM MACHINERY WEIGHT 28 TON CNC NUM 750 Gjdpfxot Hr Iko Ahvoiu ATC 61 PLACES AUTOMATIC HEAD AXIS A 1° AXIS B 3

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1973, spindle diameter 140 mm x-travel 2000 mm y-travel 2000 mm z-axis 1500 mm spindle stroke - max. 800 mm spindle taper ISO 50 table surface area 1800 x 1500 mm table load 15000 kg turning speed range 2,3 - 810 U/min total power requirement ca. 30 kW weight of the machine ca. 31000 kg dimensions of the machine ca. 7300 x 5600 x 4000 mm Equipment: - Faceplate with NC facing slide and NC rotary table - Heidenhain digital readout - Various tool holders - Various clamping devices Gedpfjy Umc Uex Ahvoiu

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1995, spindle diameter 120 mm x-travel 1500 mm y-travel 1000 mm Gisdpfx Aey U N I Hshvou Control Fanuc

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2001, CNC bed type milling machine Fabr.IBERIMEX-MVR Type: UH-1250 BJ. 2001 Control HEIDENHAIN TNC124 Procedures: X1250mm Y500mm 460 mm Gijdpfod Eranjx Ahveu Clamping table: 360mmX1800mm Spindle retainer: ISO50 Machine with full enclosure. Machine card see more data. Machine in good condition.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1959, Technical details: spindle diameter: 160 mm drill depth: 1400 mm x-travel: 3600 mm y-travel: 3000 mm z-travel: 1400 mm U-axis: 475 mm tool taper: SK 80 rpm - drive spindle: 1430 U/min Godpsyzftxjfx Ahvjiu total power requirement: 11 kW weight of the machine ca.: 32 t *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1992, Technical details: spindle diameter: 100 mm x-travel: 1500 mm y-travel: 1450 mm z-axis: 930 mm w-axis: 506 mm B-axis (table): 360 ° control for program: HdH TNC 407 Gjdju Idqbspfx Ahvjiu tool taper: SK50 number of spindle speeds: 5 - 1.600 / stufenlos table load: 4,0 t table-size: 1100 x 1400 mm table rotating: 360 ° feed steps: X/Y/W/Z-Achse: 2 - 2000 mm/min Rapid feed X axis: X/Y/W/Z-Achse 5000 mm/min. total power requirement: 40 kW dimensions electric cabinet: 2000 x 600 x 2000 mm machine dimensions LxWxH: 4,9 x 3,7 x 3,8 m weight of the machine ca.: 14 t CNC drilling-milling machine with hydraulic power unit. Working paths from the table: X-axis table transverse 1500mm W-axis table longitudinal 1000mm 9x T-slots according to DIN 650 Equipment: measuring probe electronic handwheel hydr. weight compensation Y-axis universal milling head And some accessories, ask for them! i.D. *

Condition: used, Technical details: spindle diameter: 130 mm drill depth: 1380 mm x-travel: 2500 mm y-travel: 1600 mm z-travel: 380 mm w-axis: 900 Bohrspindelvorschub mm U-axis: 320 Planschiebervorschub mm control: auf Wunsch tool taper: ISO SK50 revolution per minute: Planschieber:4,5-180 U/min rpm - drive spindle: 4,5-900 U/min feed:: x/y: 5-2000 total power requirement: ca. 40 kW Gjdpfx Ajvr S Ulshvoiu weight of the machine ca.: ca.< 35 + AZusatzeinrichtungen t The machine can be offered in 4 different sales options. Please choose! 1. the machine is in mint mechanical condition. As is/is. 2. the machine as is/is incl. plate field 4000x2000x300mm = stock no. 1101081 3. the machine is newly wired, with new electrical cabinet, digital display, with 4-axis, AC drives from Siemens, axis motors from Siemens (50A/31Nm) with 12 months warranty on all new parts. 4. further additional equipment can be offered as an option. Such as coolant system, chip conveyor, enclosure etc. We should discuss this on the table with your technical staff. i.D. *