Used Spinner Cnc Lathe for sale (87)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, Max. turning length: 600 mm Max. swing diameter: 300 mm Max. turning diameter over machine bed: 425 mm X-axis travel: 221 mm Z-axis travel: 590 mm Spindle bore: 65 mm Turret number of positions: VDI 30, 12 stations Driven tools Main spindle speed: 4,500 rpm Main spindle drive power: 11 kW Control: FANUC Series 2i/T Year of manufacture: 1999 Machine weight: 3,800 kg Ncsdpfx Abox Rvg Uo Isl

Year of construction: 2005, condition: ready for operation (used), A lathe (Universal Turning Solution) is offered, control: Fanuc, tool turret: 12-station, tailstock, 3-jaw chuck. Tool setting arm: Renishaw HPRA. Inspection is possible by arrangement. Nodpjx I Rpxsfx Ab Ijcl

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2020, SIEMENS 840D SL control unit MAIN SPINDLE Speed 5.000 1/min Spindle bore 65 mm COUNTER SPINDLE Speed 7,000 1/min Spindle bore 42 mm 2 REVOVER Travel X1, X2 180mm Travel Y1 ±45mm Travel Z1= 704mm, Z2= 620mm 12 stations per revover all driven Ncsdsvi Nizjpfx Ab Isl Chip conveyor Bar loading magazine TOP X-FILES XFS/7.3

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, Spinner TS66L-SMC CNC Lathe with Sub-Spindle Year of manufacture: 2008 Control: FANUC 18i-TB Turning diameter: 400 mm Turning length: 640 mm Bar capacity: 66 mm Swing diameter: 685 mm Travel (X-axis): 240 mm Travel (Z-axis): 640 mm Main spindle speed: 4,000 rpm Sub-spindle speed: 5,000 rpm Main spindle bore: 73 mm Sub-spindle bore: 43 mm C-axis: 0.001° Turret: 12 positions, all driven Tool holder: VDI 30 Driven tools: 9 kW Driven tool speed: 4,000 rpm Feed rate, stepless: 500 mm/min Rapid traverse X-axis: 18 m/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 24 m/min Spindle motor power: 19 / 14 kW Machine weight: approx. 5.7 t Ncodpoxptz Refx Ab Ijl Space requirements: approx. 2.35 x 1.65 x 1.85 m

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2011, turning diameter over cross slide: 400 mm, turning length: 650 mm, Spinner TC600 65 MCY Lathe Siemens 840 D Control Turning Diameter 400 mm Turning Length 650 mm Travel X: 275 mm, Y: (+50/-40) mm, Z: 700 mm C-Axis Maximum Rapid Traverse X/Z 15/24 Spindle: Maximum Speed 5000 rpm Chuck Size 210 mm Tailstock Taper Mount: MK4 Turret: Number of Tools: 16, all stations driven. Tool Holder: VDI30 Number of Tools: 16 Ncsdpstqm Ekefx Ab Iel Maximum Speed 5000 rpm Power (60%) 6 kW Torque (60%) ~30 kN Weight 5000 kg Dimensions 2.50 m x 1.6 m x 2.5 m

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2022, operating hours: 2,800 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: AU1190, turning diameter: 280 mm, spindle bore: 52 mm, spindle speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 200 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 510 mm, CNC lathe from 2022 with only 2,800 operating hours! The machine is being auctioned with a comprehensive tooling package! Placing a bid obligates you to collect the machine on time in calendar week 39 or 40! The seller will specify a fixed pick-up date, which must be adhered to! TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. turning diameter: 280 mm Spindle data Spindle bore: 52 mm Spindle speed: max. 5,000 rpm Spindle motor power: 23,500 W Axis data X-axis travel: 200 mm Z-axis travel: 510 mm X-axis rapid traverse: 15 m/min Z-axis rapid traverse: 24 m/min Tooling Tool rotation speed: max. 4,500 rpm Tool stations: 12 (all driven) Tool holder: VDI 30 Tailstock Quill diameter: 60 mm / MT 4 Quill stroke: 125 mm Tailstock longitudinal travel: 500 mm MACHINE DETAILS Control: Siemens 840DE Njdpfx Ajw Iy Txeb Iecl Dimensions & Weight Footprint (L x W x H): 3,500 x 2,200 x 1,900 mm Total weight: 4,000 kg Operating hours: 2,800 EQUIPMENT SPINNER SPIOS 24" touch panel 14.0 SHOPTURN process step programming Additional chuck jaws Spinner Multicontrol Wheel Power chuck SMW 210 mm C-axis Chip conveyor High-pressure pump 15 bar Measuring probe (tool measurement) Incl. tool holder and tooling package

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: AH0366, turning diameter: 310 mm, spindle speed (max.): 4,500 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 230 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 740 mm, bar diameter (max.): 65 mm, No reserve price - guaranteed sale at the highest bid! TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis travel: 230 mm Z-axis travel: 740 mm Turning range Swing diameter over bed: 425 mm Max. turning diameter: 310 mm Center distance: approx. 600 mm Spindle Spindle speed: max. 4,500 rpm Spindle bore: 65 mm Ncsdpfewd Nyzex Ab Ijl Spindle head diameter: 100 mm Max. chuck diameter: 250 mm Max. permissible chuck jaw weight: 1.25 kg Spindle bearing diameter: 120 mm Rapid traverse Rapid traverse X-axis: 15 m/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 24 m/min Tool carrier Turret stations: 6 Tool holder: DIN 69880 / 30 mm Speed of rotating tools: max. 6,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Overall length: 5,000 mm Overall width: 1,500 mm Overall height: 1,800 mm Total weight: 4,700 kg EQUIPMENT - LNS Quickload Servo V3 bar loader, built in 2007 - Technical documentation available - VDI 30 tool holders and machine tools shown are not included in delivery - Machine without tailstock

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: AB0702, travel distance X-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 530 mm, controller model: FANUC 21 iMB, table load: 500 kg, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X-axis: 650 mm Travel Y-axis: 500 mm Travel Z-axis: 530 mm Table clamping surface: 800 x 500 mm Spindle speeds: 60 - 8,000 rpm Spindle taper: SK 40 Spindle taper standard: DIN 69871 A Maximum table load: 500 kg Rapid traverse X/Y/Z-axis: 30 m/min Tool changer: 30 positions Tool diameter with full magazine: 80 mm Tool diameter with 2 free positions: 120 mm Maximum tool length: 250 mm Maximum tool weight: 7 kg MACHINE DETAILS Control: FANUC 21 iMB Ncodpfeya E Thex Ab Ijl Total power requirement: 30 kVA Dimensions & Weight Machine dimensions (L x W x H): 2.4 x 2.2 x 2.46 m Machine weight: 4.5 t EQUIPMENT NC rotary axis with tailstock, manufacturer MECA-DIVIMEK (Spain), DCH 160 C 2 machine vices Coolant system

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2014, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,520 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 520 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 420 mm, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, CNC control Sinumerik 840D NC-swivel-rotary table (B-axis and C-axis) automatic tool changer for 30 tools coolant device chip conveyor Technische Daten / technical details: X-Weg / X-travel 1520 mm Nsdpfxox S Htzs Ab Iscl Y-Weg / Y-travel 520 mm Z-Weg / Z-travel 420 mm B-Achse Schwenktisch / B-axis swivel table -90 - +110 ° C-Achse Rundtisch / C-axis rotary table 360 ° NC-Schwenk-Rundtischdurchmesser / NC swivel-rotary table diameter 500 mm Starrtischaufspannfläche / fixed table clamping area 920 x 540 mm Spindelaufnahme / spindle taper SK40 Drehzahl Spindel / spindle speed 12000 Upm /rpm Eilgang / rapid feed 32 m/min Antriebsleistung Spindel / drive capacity spindle 25 kW Gewicht der Maschine ca. / weight 10500 kg Technische Daten, Zubehör und Beschreibung der Maschine sind unverbindlich - Technical data, accessories and description of the machine are not binding.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2017, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,150 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 620 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 600 mm, -CNC control Heidenhain TNC620 Ncodpfxox Tn A Ho Ab Ijl -60+1-fold automatic tool changer -chip conveyor -coolant through spindle device (22bar) -direct position measuring system in xyz -measuring feeler Technische Daten / technical details: Verfahrweg X / X-Travel 1150 mm Verfahrweg Y / Y-Travel 620 mm Verfahrweg Z / Z-Travel 600 mm Tischgröße / table size 1400x620 mm Werkzeugschaft / spindle taper SK40 Drehzahl / spindle speed 10000 UpM /rpm Anzahl der Werkzeugplätze / tool places in changer 60+1 fach / fold Eilgang / rapid feed 48 m/min Antriebsleistung Spindel / drive capacity spindle 19 kW Gewicht der Maschine ca. / weight 8300 kg Technische Daten, Zubehör und Beschreibung der Maschine sind unverbindlich - Technical data, accessories and description of the machine are not binding.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2015, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, Fanuc Oi-MD CNC control electronical handwheel 24-fold tool changer coolant device chip conveyor Technische Daten / technical details: X-Weg / X-travel 450 mm Y-Weg / Y-travel 400 mm Z-Weg / Z-travel 400 mm Spindelaufnahme / spindle taper SK40 Drehzahl / spindle speed 15000 UpM /rpm Eilgang / rapid feed 36 m/min Tischaufspannfläche / table clamping area 770x410 mm Werkzeugwechselmagazinplätze / number of tool places in changer 24 Antriebsleistung Spindel / drive capacity spindle 16 kW Gewicht ca. / weight ca. 3500 kg Technische Daten, Zubehör und Beschreibung der Maschine sind unverbindlich - Technical data, accessories and description of the machine are not binding. Nedpfxox Slbwo Ab Iocl

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2021, functionality: fully functional, Used Spinner VC 1150, spindle replaced in November 2025 X travel: 1,150 mm Y travel: 620 mm Z travel: 800 mm Direct measuring systems on X/Y/Z axes Control: Siemens 840DE High-precision milling spindle up to 14,000 rpm as built-in motor spindle with direct drive (no belt), water-cooled Tool holder on spindle: SK 40 Nsdpfxoycc Hqs Ab Iecl Machine operating hours: 22,954 Tool magazine with 32 tool stations as high-speed changer with double-arm gripper design and fast-moving tool chain

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,530 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 530 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 465 mm, rotary table diameter: 650 mm, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 32, Spinner U1530 X-axis travel 1,530 mm Y-axis travel 530 mm Z-axis travel Ncodeych Rhjpfx Ab Iel 465 mm Rotary table diameter (5th axis) 650 mm Number of tools 32 Spindle speed 12,000 rpm Prepared for automation Tool holders SK40

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 5,500 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 750 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 460 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 460 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 36 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 36 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 36 m/min, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: Sinumerik 840 D, table width: 410 mm, table length: 900 mm, table load: 350 kg, rotational speed (min.): 10 rpm, rotational speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, overall weight: 4,000 kg, spindle speed (min.): 10 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 24, Vertical machining center Spinner VC 750 from training facility Year of manufacture: 2019 Control: Sinumerik 840D Technical specifications Spindle speed: 10 - 12,000 rpm Drive power: 11/17 kW Tool holder: SK 40 Number of magazine positions: 24 Table size: 900 x 410 mm Travel distances: X-axis: 750 mm Y-axis: 460 mm Z-axis: 460 mm Ncodpeya H Tcefx Ab Iol Equipment: Electronic handwheel Coolant system (KSS) Chip conveyor Prepared for 3D probe – receiver available

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2015, operating hours: 12,244 h, spindle speed (max.): 4,500 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 230 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 740 mm, spindle motor power: 11,000 W, total height: 1,620 mm, overall weight: 4,200 kg, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: 840D-SolutionLine, number of axes: 2, This 2-axis SPINNER TC 600-65MC horizontal turning machine was manufactured in 2017, featuring a Siemens 840D control system and a 16-position indexing turret. It includes a main spindle with a speed of up to 4,000 rpm and a power of 24 kW. The machine offers a swing diameter over bed of 425 mm and a maximum turning diameter of 310 mm. Consider the opportunity to buy this SPINNER TC 600-65MC horizontal turning machine. Contact us for more information about this machine. Additional equipment • Full splash guard cladding + coolant unit • Work area light + pneumatic equipment Nedex D E Hnepfx Ab Ijcl • Panoramic window for optimum visibility into the work area Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • Center distance: approx. 600 mm • Max turning diameter: 310 mm • Torque: main spindle (fanuc, s6 40%) 178 nm, main spindle (siemens, s6 40%) 301 nm • Quill stroke: 120 mm • Adjustment travel: 475 mm • Speed of rotating tools: 6000 1/min • Driven tool power: (fanuc, 30 min) 3. 7 kw, (siemens, 40%) 6. 0 kw Extra Information Media Pneumatics max. operating pressure: 10 bar Normal pressure: 6 bar Hydraulics max. operating pressure: 30 bar Control Unit Control system: Standard Siemens 840D, Option Fanuc 21i Operating voltage: 400 V Mains frequency: 50/60 Hz Control voltage: 24 V DC Interfaces: USB, Ethernet, SPINNER-UNIMAG bar feed (electric)

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2014, Spinner MCV 1000, year of manufacture 2014, Heidenhain TNC 620 control, travel X/Y/Z 1016/610/508 mm, 32-position tool changer, SK 40 spindle taper, prepared for internal coolant, table size 1200 x 500 mm, max. table load 800 kg, spindle speed up to 10,000 rpm, SK 40 spindle taper, chip conveyor, 4-jaw chuck Ø 250 mm with jaws, 3-jaw chuck Ø 315 mm with jaws. Ncjdpfx Ajyaqn Dob Ijl

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2023, Spinner TC 600, year 2023, Fanuc 32 i TB control, X/Z travel 275/700 mm, chip conveyor, tailstock, 16-position turret, VDI 40, C-axis, driven tools, 3-jaw chuck Ø 250 mm. Ncedpfxjyap H So Ab Ijl

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, Spinner TC 65, year of manufacture 2008, control Fanuc 21 iTB, travel X/Z 230/740 mm, tailstock, quill stroke 120 mm, spindle speed up to 4,500 rpm, 12-position turret, all stations driven, C axis, VDI 30, tailstock, three-jaw chuck, bar capacity up to 65 mm. Njdpfsyapziox Ab Ijcl

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, Spinner Tc 65 MC, year of manufacture 2005, Fanuc control, X/Z travel 230/740 mm, 12-position turret, C axis, driven tools, tailstock, chip conveyor, parts catcher, postprocessor, tool measuring arm. Njdpfx Abeyapits Iecl

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1998, spindle speed (max.): 3,750 rpm, total height: 2,100 mm, overall weight: 7,000 kg, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: Sinumerik, number of axes: 2, This SPINNER TC 82 -MC was manufactured in 1998. A robust horizontal turning machine featuring a Siemens Sinumerik control system, it offers a max turning diameter of 400-520 mm and length up to 1100 mm. With a spindle speed of 3750 rpm and a 12-position VDI 40 turret with live tooling, it's ideal for precise turning tasks. Dimensions are 4200 × 2000 × 2100 mm. Contact us for more information about this machine. Nsdpfeyar Ixox Ab Iscl Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • Max turning diameter: approx. 400–520 mm • Max turning length: approx. 1100 mm Extra Information Machine still under power Dimensions Machine Depth 4200 mm

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2011, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: oi-md, table width: 410 mm, table length: 770 mm, table load: 200 kg, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 7,500 W, number of slots in tool magazine: 24, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis SPINNER VC 450 was manufactured in 2011. It features a Fanuc 0i-MD control unit, X/Y/Z travels of 450/400/400 mm, and a rapid traverse rate of 36 m/min. The spindle operates at up to 15,000 rpm with a power of 7.5 kW. It includes a 24-tool changer, linear guideways, and a chip conveyor. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities consider the SPINNER VC 450 machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Additional equipment • Air-blow system for spindle taper • Included: Approx. 40 SK40 tool holders Nodpfx Ajyar Avsb Iocl Extra Information Machine still under power

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2016, travel distance X-axis: 1,600 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 810 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 700 mm, controller manufacturer: HEIDENHAIN, controller model: ITNC 640, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis SPINNER MVC 1600-N was manufactured in 2016. Ideal for precision machining, this vertical machining centre ensures reliable performance and durability. Consider the opportunity to buy this SPINNER MVC 1600-N vertical machining centre. Contact us for more information. Additional equipment • Accessories: Chip conveyor Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits Nedpfeyallqox Ab Ijcl • Table size: 1800 x 810 mm • Allowed weight: 2000 kg • Automatic tool changer: atc 24 positions Extra Information Machine still under power Technical Specification Through-spindle Coolant Yes

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2020, operating hours: 25,585 h, spindle speed (max.): 7,000 rpm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: Series 31i-MODEL B, This SPINNER TTS 42 Lathe was manufactured in the year 2020 in Germany and has 25585 production hours. It is equipped with a Fanuc Series 31i-MODEL B control unit. The machine has a spindle speed of 7000 rpm. See tech specs file as PDF (German) attached for more details. Machine Benefits Qualitative Machine Benefits • Unimag interface for bar loading magazines • Parts conveyor belt • Spinner bar loading machine type servo. Make spinner, for spindles up to 42mm passage, for material d=4-42mm, length up to 3,200 mm • 10x external turning holder • 12x boring bar holders d=32 • 3x recessed boring bar holders • 6x straight agw • 3x axial agw • Material processed so far: aluminum, brass Technical Machine Benefits • Spindle 2 (counter spindle) in version up to 7,000 rpm - 42mm • Revolver 1 : 12-fold with cnc servo drive revolver 2 : 12-speed with cnc servo drive revolver 3 : 12-speed with cnc servo drive dmjgmx • Ejector unit integrated in counter spindle for ejecting parts into the parts catcher • Signal lamp on top of machine in three colors red/yellow/green as status display • Late conveyor as hinged belt conveyor exiting to the right, incl. Integrated coolant tank and return pump • Coolant system as additional tank incl. Submersible pump 80l/4bar, high-pressure pump up to 80bar / 19. 5l/min Nodpsyail Ujfx Ab Iecl • Flushing gun in the work area • Holder for messtaster on the machine bed as preparation for the use of a • Messtaster for tool measurement switching in 3 axes. • Extraction d=200 to the working area for connection to extraction system

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2011, operating hours: 16,051 h, travel distance X-axis: 1,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 650 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 650 mm, This 3-axis SPINNER VC 1000 was manufactured in 2011. It features a Siemens 840DE-SolutionLine control, a 15" color screen, and a high-speed milling spindle up to 12,000 rpm. The machine offers X=1000 mm, Y=650 mm, Z=650 mm travels, and a rapid tool changer for 24 tools. Ideal for precise and efficient machining. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities consider the SPINNER VC 1000 machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. • Milling spindle up to 12000 rpm with "in-line" direct drive • Travels: X=1000 mm, Y=650 mm, Z=650 mm • Linear guides in all three axes • Tool taper size 40 according to DIN 69871-A • High-speed automatic tool changer for 24 tools • Spindle taper blow-out device Ncodpfxsx Ut Hge Ab Ijl • Full splash guard enclosure • Work area light • Chip conveyor VC 1000-HS • Coolant transfer to tool according to DIN 69871A • High-pressure pump and gravity paper filter with capacitive level switch • Tool holder SK40 for TC 50 touch probe • measuring probe included

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 43,000 h, functionality: fully functional, For sale is a high-precision CNC turning and milling center Spinner TC300-52, manufactured in 2014. The machine is in very well-maintained condition and was primarily used for prototype and small batch production. It has never been subjected to heavy-duty, maximum-load 3-shift continuous operation, which is reflected in its excellent mechanical condition. The machine is under power and ready for demonstration at the Freiburg location! The spindle hours are significantly lower than the total operating hours! Ncedpfsx Sr Uwox Ab Iel This machine is sold including a comprehensive tooling package and a wide range of tool holders, numerous collets for main and sub spindle, as well as several reduction sleeves. The tooling and accessories alone (including numerous driven double tool holders) have a new replacement value of approximately €15,000 to €20,000. This makes the machine the ideal solution for companies aiming to start highly complex production immediately, without lengthy additional investments. Documentation: The original order confirmation, detailing the complete equipment specification, is available for inspection. - Location: 79115 Freiburg (DE) - Availability: The machine is under power, available for demonstration, and can be delivered immediately. - Scope of delivery: Includes tool holders, collets, and complete documentation. • Year of manufacture: 2014 • Control: Siemens 840D-SolutionLine with 15" color display and ShopTurn (conversational programming) • Working area: X 180 mm / Z 450 mm / Y +/- 40 mm • Spindles: main spindle (5,000 rpm) & sub spindle (7,000 rpm), both liquid-cooled motor spindles • Tool turret: 12 stations (VDI25), all driven (up to 6,000 rpm) • Bar capacity: up to Ø 52 mm • Coolant package: Switchable 15 bar high-pressure pump for internally cooled tools • Measurement systems: Integrated tool probe arm for quick setup • Workholding: Collet chucks from SMW Autoblok (185E and 164E) incl. reduction sleeves • Safety & convenience: Clamping force regulation via differential pressure on the sub spindle (ideal for delicate parts), parts catcher with catch box, and hinged belt chip conveyor • Precision guide concept: Unlike standard machines, Spinner utilizes hardened and ground slideways on all axes, providing superior vibration damping, excellent surface finishes, and longer tool life • Fully equipped (All-Inclusive): The machine features a Y-axis (+/- 40 mm) and a full-fledged sub spindle, enabling complete machining of complex parts in a single setup • Advanced measurement technology: Absolute measuring systems (glass scale in X1) eliminate the need for referencing after startup